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mrajatish
07-11 06:07 PM
I know people who got their GC in 7 months from the date they filed PERM. and then there are many people getting GCs every month. There are both good stories and bad stories to tell about getting GC in US.
There were times when H1 quota never reached the limit during the whole fiscal year, now they get used in just 2 days. This mess in GC process is a result mainly due to our own actions (temporary workers and consulting companies hiring temporary workers). Do you think majority of us once we get GC, stay with the consulting company that filed for our GC? When a consulting company files for PERM, they already have a foreign national working under H-1B in that position. So where is the real intent to hire an American when some foreigner is already working at that position?
This employment based GC is a way for us foreigners to immigrate to US easily at one point. Now due to our extreme usage and abuse of this process, there are genuine people who are being sponsored to immigrate to US are also suffering. In a true employment GC scenario, the company should be desperate to keep you for a long time (more than 6 years after H-1B is maxed) for your valuable skills that they were unable to find in others. But in most GC cases, looks like we temporary workers are more desperate than our employers for the GC? aren't we? Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?
Do not put all the blame on US immigration system, the majority of the blame should fall on us and the companies who are helping us to get GCs when our cases are not based on genuine sponsors.
Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?
This was true in my case at least - my compay worked hard to keep me around when my H1 was expiring.
There were times when H1 quota never reached the limit during the whole fiscal year, now they get used in just 2 days. This mess in GC process is a result mainly due to our own actions (temporary workers and consulting companies hiring temporary workers). Do you think majority of us once we get GC, stay with the consulting company that filed for our GC? When a consulting company files for PERM, they already have a foreign national working under H-1B in that position. So where is the real intent to hire an American when some foreigner is already working at that position?
This employment based GC is a way for us foreigners to immigrate to US easily at one point. Now due to our extreme usage and abuse of this process, there are genuine people who are being sponsored to immigrate to US are also suffering. In a true employment GC scenario, the company should be desperate to keep you for a long time (more than 6 years after H-1B is maxed) for your valuable skills that they were unable to find in others. But in most GC cases, looks like we temporary workers are more desperate than our employers for the GC? aren't we? Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?
Do not put all the blame on US immigration system, the majority of the blame should fall on us and the companies who are helping us to get GCs when our cases are not based on genuine sponsors.
Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?
This was true in my case at least - my compay worked hard to keep me around when my H1 was expiring.
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CADude
02-13 01:15 AM
it's classic problem of supply demand and least resistance path.
USCIS provides 3K/each category Visa# per country. What ever USCIS will do you can't fit 200K application in 9K/annum visa#.
Last 3 years(since dec 2005) - EB3 India PD is beyond May 08 2001 only for three months and EB2 is enjoying the benefits of GC. Anyone noticed. NONE. So what happened, many EB3 choosen for convert to EB2 path. Now EB2 India is U so many guys degree with PhD, etc trying for EB1. It human nature and nothing wrong with it. Everyone wants GC ASAP.
So bottomline, Demand is very high compare to Supply. unless USCIS get significant visa# nothing will change.
USCIS provides 3K/each category Visa# per country. What ever USCIS will do you can't fit 200K application in 9K/annum visa#.
Last 3 years(since dec 2005) - EB3 India PD is beyond May 08 2001 only for three months and EB2 is enjoying the benefits of GC. Anyone noticed. NONE. So what happened, many EB3 choosen for convert to EB2 path. Now EB2 India is U so many guys degree with PhD, etc trying for EB1. It human nature and nothing wrong with it. Everyone wants GC ASAP.
So bottomline, Demand is very high compare to Supply. unless USCIS get significant visa# nothing will change.
santb1975
02-12 10:56 PM
How about everyone who came up with this idea on this thread. Why should IV core or murthy or someone do this ?
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snathan
01-16 07:20 PM
There is no such requirement for fresh H1B as well as renewal as per Law. That is why we call it an ILLEGAL memo. We all need to fight this together.
NB: I am not a specialist in law
We need to come up with a road map and how to fight?
NB: I am not a specialist in law
We need to come up with a road map and how to fight?
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GCard_Dream
02-12 01:48 PM
ROW = Rest of the World. It refers to countries other than India, China, Mexico, and I believe Philippines.
Can anyone explain me..
Can anyone explain me..
_TrueFacts
09-04 01:50 PM
So next time of election, take vacation and go home, do campaigning, spend money and vote out the govt. you dislike, if you are real serious.
Will do whatever each one of us can, but at least for the fact that you are living and seen US be supportive of development in India and criticize corruption and corrupt politicians like gunda YSR.
There is wealth of information on YSR's corruption. People are vexed for a reason.
Will do whatever each one of us can, but at least for the fact that you are living and seen US be supportive of development in India and criticize corruption and corrupt politicians like gunda YSR.
There is wealth of information on YSR's corruption. People are vexed for a reason.
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sidbee
01-22 03:46 PM
Murthy.com explains the effects of the memo.
MurthyDotCom : H1B Memo on Employer-Employee Relationships and 3rd-Party Placements (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_e-erel.html)
MurthyDotCom : H1B Memo on Employer-Employee Relationships and 3rd-Party Placements (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_e-erel.html)
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12-13 04:28 PM
Folks,
Since this can potentially be a great win for us, why don't we take the advice of a top constitutional attorney. I am sure the attorney will be able to tell us if we have a case. As for the cost, I think an hours time of any attorney will be peanuts compared to what we can afford.
What say LogicLife?
Thanks.
Since this can potentially be a great win for us, why don't we take the advice of a top constitutional attorney. I am sure the attorney will be able to tell us if we have a case. As for the cost, I think an hours time of any attorney will be peanuts compared to what we can afford.
What say LogicLife?
Thanks.
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nonimmi
06-28 12:43 PM
This is what I'm doing. I'm flying to Nebraska service center friday night. Will put my shelter in front on PO box and will remain there until Monday morning. Once the USCIS guy comes up to pick up the mails, I'm just going to hand deliver my paper before he even opens his mail box.
Want to join me ;)
Go to NYC Apple store tonight, camp there and get iPhone tomorrow evening. You can spend your time in Nebraska more happliy!! :D
Want to join me ;)
Go to NYC Apple store tonight, camp there and get iPhone tomorrow evening. You can spend your time in Nebraska more happliy!! :D
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Googler
02-13 01:01 PM
The problem here not every country gets equal or equitable piece of pie. The probelm is Part of the pie gets thrown out and not given to people in the line because too many of them happen to be from one country.
How about facts? In 2006, Philippines received 23,733 EB visas, India - 17,169. No other country received more. China received 9,484.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2006/table10d.xls
One thing to note in this dicussion is that this reallocation to oversubscribed countries is far from seamless. If cutoff dates for oversubscribed countries are not moved up in the 3rd quarter (as opposed to the fourth quarter of the fiscal year), part of the pie DOES get thrown out, as it has in recent years 2003 (88.4K), 2004 (47,3K), 2006 (10.2k) [see 2007 Ombudsmans Report, p. 34 which gives the data for these years and going back to 1992]. This is absolutely infuriating since 2003-2004 these were also the years that largely created the present backlog of applicants with early PDs. How on earth can you justify throwing out 10.2K greencards in 2006 (FY 2007) EVEN AFTER the June 2007 greencard free for all??
How about facts? In 2006, Philippines received 23,733 EB visas, India - 17,169. No other country received more. China received 9,484.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2006/table10d.xls
One thing to note in this dicussion is that this reallocation to oversubscribed countries is far from seamless. If cutoff dates for oversubscribed countries are not moved up in the 3rd quarter (as opposed to the fourth quarter of the fiscal year), part of the pie DOES get thrown out, as it has in recent years 2003 (88.4K), 2004 (47,3K), 2006 (10.2k) [see 2007 Ombudsmans Report, p. 34 which gives the data for these years and going back to 1992]. This is absolutely infuriating since 2003-2004 these were also the years that largely created the present backlog of applicants with early PDs. How on earth can you justify throwing out 10.2K greencards in 2006 (FY 2007) EVEN AFTER the June 2007 greencard free for all??
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ramus
07-04 09:57 AM
Guys... Please help Mecaca.. Please scan all 100 pages of breaking news thread and summarize issues.. Please be very specfic and up to the point..
Should be short.
I meant a scan of the other 100 page thread Breaking news. I did not follow that thread and it has lot of issues. Please summarize issues mentioned in Breaking News thread here.
I will add issues from this thread! thanks
Should be short.
I meant a scan of the other 100 page thread Breaking news. I did not follow that thread and it has lot of issues. Please summarize issues mentioned in Breaking News thread here.
I will add issues from this thread! thanks
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deepakjain
08-15 10:12 AM
I am sure the immigration officers might have got news about people from India make illigal entry into US when they come as part of some drama, dance, shows.
Many "extras", dancers, musicians have vanished after landing in US.....check any local desi Indian resturant, kirana stores those desi working there are all illigal immigrants....it is not only mexicans but many from northern India states are here as illigal immigrants ....
the easiest way to make entry into US, Canada is landing here as part of a show troop....few famous Indian personality have been detained and proved that they were tainted in human traffacking....Ministers, Movie Stars, SInger, Musical show organizers ....
Many Desis have vanished in UK, Germany, Holland, US, Canada.... {I am not saying SRK is involved in Human Traffacking ...but Indian are and show is the most common option}
Many "extras", dancers, musicians have vanished after landing in US.....check any local desi Indian resturant, kirana stores those desi working there are all illigal immigrants....it is not only mexicans but many from northern India states are here as illigal immigrants ....
the easiest way to make entry into US, Canada is landing here as part of a show troop....few famous Indian personality have been detained and proved that they were tainted in human traffacking....Ministers, Movie Stars, SInger, Musical show organizers ....
Many Desis have vanished in UK, Germany, Holland, US, Canada.... {I am not saying SRK is involved in Human Traffacking ...but Indian are and show is the most common option}
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suriajay12
09-24 07:59 PM
congress or the president or USCIS is not going to come and physically check whether you are staying in a house or apt ..and it is not that the original suggestion will become a law in the exact terms (I cannot imagine that there will be a law saying that only those who buy house with 20 down will get GC) ..i.e. the purpose here is to show the giving faster GC's to people who are waiting since 8 years helps the economy in some minute way. and the reverse (i.e. to make a highly paid immigrants wait in line for 8 - 10 years) does not achieve anything !! ..INFACT if there are lot of job losses and if those who are here for 8 plus years start to go back (with their bank balances) ..THEN there will be measurable losses for US ..because the IT person not only takes one job to China, India or some other place ..but also trains lot of youngsters in those places and who end up taking more jobs away ..a BIG loss (plus buys house there, pays taxes, services there) (but I guess politicians are too selfish to see that !!).
it is as simple as that !!! i.e. give people faster GC's and it helps the US ..make them sweat and keep them in limbo does not achieve anything...will it work God knows ..but it is worth trying since nothing else is happening and soon if things worsen then the GC will be meaning less for many.
Also, In the end ..if we do go back ..then atleast we will have the satisfaction that we tried everything ..
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on unrelated thoughts ..this wait really sucks ..for me it is almost 5 years since I applied for GC and I cannot even imagine how the people who applied in 2001 / 2002 feel.
-------- and on related point ...don't rush to buy houses if u don't have a GC (actually this makes sense for those on GC too) ..here is a point from an article by Meredith Whitney who sort of became famous after making some correct forecasts.. this article was written today.
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Whitney said home prices were not close to bottoming and expects prices to ultimately be at least 25 percent lower from current levels. She also sees further declines in homeownership rate.
The unemployment rate, which is up over 40 percent year-on-year in key states, is "headed materially higher," Whitney said.
Albert,
I agree with you.. We need to make the points clear, point wise too. A big letter.. some points may be missed.
Plusses:1,2,3,4.....
Negatives:...
it is as simple as that !!! i.e. give people faster GC's and it helps the US ..make them sweat and keep them in limbo does not achieve anything...will it work God knows ..but it is worth trying since nothing else is happening and soon if things worsen then the GC will be meaning less for many.
Also, In the end ..if we do go back ..then atleast we will have the satisfaction that we tried everything ..
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on unrelated thoughts ..this wait really sucks ..for me it is almost 5 years since I applied for GC and I cannot even imagine how the people who applied in 2001 / 2002 feel.
-------- and on related point ...don't rush to buy houses if u don't have a GC (actually this makes sense for those on GC too) ..here is a point from an article by Meredith Whitney who sort of became famous after making some correct forecasts.. this article was written today.
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Whitney said home prices were not close to bottoming and expects prices to ultimately be at least 25 percent lower from current levels. She also sees further declines in homeownership rate.
The unemployment rate, which is up over 40 percent year-on-year in key states, is "headed materially higher," Whitney said.
Albert,
I agree with you.. We need to make the points clear, point wise too. A big letter.. some points may be missed.
Plusses:1,2,3,4.....
Negatives:...
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eastindia
01-19 10:08 AM
Question to everyone criticizing consulting companies
If you have a choice to have a EB3 2001 PD/EB2 2003 PD substitute labor from a consulting company, what will you do?
Will you not want to contact them and file your greencard through them?
So stop this bullshit about criticizing consulting companies. There are real human beings working in this those companies. Just because you do not work in consulting companies does not give you any right to post negative about them.
If you have a choice to have a EB3 2001 PD/EB2 2003 PD substitute labor from a consulting company, what will you do?
Will you not want to contact them and file your greencard through them?
So stop this bullshit about criticizing consulting companies. There are real human beings working in this those companies. Just because you do not work in consulting companies does not give you any right to post negative about them.
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Legal
07-25 02:08 PM
A question about the FB spillover: according to your data, there are about 30000 FB visa spillover from last year. But does USCIS have to use up all of them? If the answer is yes, then the September VB will very likely be current. If the USCIS only need to use up the 147000 EB and use whatever portion of the FB spillover, then September VB may not move.
They can waste numbers and come up with excuses. But because of criticism from Ombudsman, Congress, etc it looks like they are trying to shape up. They can adjudicate 30 k petitions are more in 2 months if they are committed to. We could get an idea, if there is a deluge of approvals in the first half of August.
They can waste numbers and come up with excuses. But because of criticism from Ombudsman, Congress, etc it looks like they are trying to shape up. They can adjudicate 30 k petitions are more in 2 months if they are committed to. We could get an idea, if there is a deluge of approvals in the first half of August.
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07-21 10:40 PM
Another thing i found out about these amway guys is they lie about
credentials of their upsells and about themselves just to show them as superior and successful in life, i know few friends of mine who though a big failure in the technical job they do (one has been kicked out of the job because he did not knew his work) but he keeps posting patents on free internet sites and writes technical blogs (most of them copied from different internet sites) just to show his downlines how bigshot he is.
Complete wastage of time and money, do it if you want to alienate all your existing friends and family and if you did decide to join , be ready to be brainwashed by the new friends and group that you are going to have by making everybody else beside that group as a loser.
By the Way when they introduce you to their boss ,their boss usually shows you a real check of 8-9K, is it usually a fake check given to them as part of the kit
credentials of their upsells and about themselves just to show them as superior and successful in life, i know few friends of mine who though a big failure in the technical job they do (one has been kicked out of the job because he did not knew his work) but he keeps posting patents on free internet sites and writes technical blogs (most of them copied from different internet sites) just to show his downlines how bigshot he is.
Complete wastage of time and money, do it if you want to alienate all your existing friends and family and if you did decide to join , be ready to be brainwashed by the new friends and group that you are going to have by making everybody else beside that group as a loser.
By the Way when they introduce you to their boss ,their boss usually shows you a real check of 8-9K, is it usually a fake check given to them as part of the kit
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arc
07-08 07:18 PM
Dear Sir/Madam
Thank you for helping us.
Scenario:
If one is working with company A on H1 and Company B applies a future employment GC for the person. The Person received EAD/AP for the 485 which is pending from 1 year through company B. Also have a valid and stamped H1 for 3 years from company A.
Now in this case:
1) Is there a Law or Need to Join company B since EAD has been issued?
2) Can one stick with company A even after getting EAD till he gets GC? In that case is AC21 required to remain with Company A?
3) Can one Join new Company X and use AC21?
I really appriciate your community service, thanks in advance!
Thank you for helping us.
Scenario:
If one is working with company A on H1 and Company B applies a future employment GC for the person. The Person received EAD/AP for the 485 which is pending from 1 year through company B. Also have a valid and stamped H1 for 3 years from company A.
Now in this case:
1) Is there a Law or Need to Join company B since EAD has been issued?
2) Can one stick with company A even after getting EAD till he gets GC? In that case is AC21 required to remain with Company A?
3) Can one Join new Company X and use AC21?
I really appriciate your community service, thanks in advance!
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02-14 07:03 PM
If you google retrogression, IV doesn't show up until page 2.
Is there anyway we can change this? So that IV is the first link that shows up? Anyway know about this.
Is there anyway we can change this? So that IV is the first link that shows up? Anyway know about this.
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Prez Patil to discuss anti-terror strategy with Spain
Madrid, April 21: Forging bilateral strategies to combat terrorism, boosting trade and investments and consolidating ties with the European Union will be high on the agenda as President Pratibha Patil starts high-level parleys with the Spanish leadership here on Tuesday.
Patil, who arrived in Spanish capital last night with a delegation comprising Minister of State for Commerce and Industry Ashwani Kumar and senior officials of the Ministry of External Affairs, will hold meetings with King Juan Carlos I and Queen Sofia later in the day.
Maintaining that both Spain and India are victims of the scourge of terrorism, the President told reporters onboard her aircraft that the two countries share the common challenges and the common determination to strengthen the forces of peace, security and development.
Though the issue of terrorism will be high on the agenda of deliberations between the leaders of India and Spain, "it has to be seen what the other country brings to the table during the talks," officials said.
The visit comes in the backdrop of reports of presence of al-Qaeda's network in Spain, which is also suffering at the hands of Basque group ETA, which has been identified as a terrorist outfit by the Spanish government.
India and Spain have agreed "in principle" to work closely on bilateral strategies to combat the menace and the process is "underway", Kumar said.
Bureau Report
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Prez Patil to discuss anti-terror strategy with Spain
Madrid, April 21: Forging bilateral strategies to combat terrorism, boosting trade and investments and consolidating ties with the European Union will be high on the agenda as President Pratibha Patil starts high-level parleys with the Spanish leadership here on Tuesday.
Patil, who arrived in Spanish capital last night with a delegation comprising Minister of State for Commerce and Industry Ashwani Kumar and senior officials of the Ministry of External Affairs, will hold meetings with King Juan Carlos I and Queen Sofia later in the day.
Maintaining that both Spain and India are victims of the scourge of terrorism, the President told reporters onboard her aircraft that the two countries share the common challenges and the common determination to strengthen the forces of peace, security and development.
Though the issue of terrorism will be high on the agenda of deliberations between the leaders of India and Spain, "it has to be seen what the other country brings to the table during the talks," officials said.
The visit comes in the backdrop of reports of presence of al-Qaeda's network in Spain, which is also suffering at the hands of Basque group ETA, which has been identified as a terrorist outfit by the Spanish government.
India and Spain have agreed "in principle" to work closely on bilateral strategies to combat the menace and the process is "underway", Kumar said.
Bureau Report
GCKaMaara
05-13 09:59 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_sri_lanka_civil_war
What a shame ! Yesterday only UPA Govt. issued a statement that because of their intensive efforts SL govt. has stopped bombing.
Congress/ Sonia is seeing this as personal which shouldn't have been the case.
Countries like Japan, Norway have condemned these attacks by SL govt/ sending diplomats and our UPA govt. PM says we can't do anything !
See the poor foreign policy by UPA govt. - Nepal has fallen to Maoist- backed by China, Taliban are rising as never before, LeT has become more stronger, Bangladesh soldiers are killing CRF personals on the boarder and India is home for more 2 Carores Bangladeshi now, China is disputing Arunachalam...and many more.
Agreed.
What a shame ! Yesterday only UPA Govt. issued a statement that because of their intensive efforts SL govt. has stopped bombing.
Congress/ Sonia is seeing this as personal which shouldn't have been the case.
Countries like Japan, Norway have condemned these attacks by SL govt/ sending diplomats and our UPA govt. PM says we can't do anything !
See the poor foreign policy by UPA govt. - Nepal has fallen to Maoist- backed by China, Taliban are rising as never before, LeT has become more stronger, Bangladesh soldiers are killing CRF personals on the boarder and India is home for more 2 Carores Bangladeshi now, China is disputing Arunachalam...and many more.
Agreed.
Imigrait
06-16 03:25 PM
To be honest, you are the kind of people, with the right attitude and qualifications, who deserve the GC and should not be subject to these mindless wait times. I am truly sorry for you. Hope the best for you
Who defines what "right" qualifications are? Will IIT Kanpur make the cut and not IIT Guwahati? In the US, especially Sillicon Valley the best people from all over the world come for work. People from the best colleges in their countries come to work in addition to people from "normal" colleges from their countries. Where does India's top colleges stand compared to the best colleges around the world? IITs according to some rankings are not even in the top 200 colleges. Does that mean we exclude them altogether? Where does that leave BITS Pilani? Stop harping on that qualifications theme. I know people from both Bombay University and IIT kanpur Eb2 2003 waiting still for their GCs in the same company and same department. Workwise both are similarly capable.
I would suggest you to think hard before you do your MBA. An MBA does not teach you that 1+1=2 all the time unlike an engineering field.
Who defines what "right" qualifications are? Will IIT Kanpur make the cut and not IIT Guwahati? In the US, especially Sillicon Valley the best people from all over the world come for work. People from the best colleges in their countries come to work in addition to people from "normal" colleges from their countries. Where does India's top colleges stand compared to the best colleges around the world? IITs according to some rankings are not even in the top 200 colleges. Does that mean we exclude them altogether? Where does that leave BITS Pilani? Stop harping on that qualifications theme. I know people from both Bombay University and IIT kanpur Eb2 2003 waiting still for their GCs in the same company and same department. Workwise both are similarly capable.
I would suggest you to think hard before you do your MBA. An MBA does not teach you that 1+1=2 all the time unlike an engineering field.
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