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vadicherla
09-04 01:37 AM
If you had a laugh on my post good for you. Should have given you some relief from YSR's death. I have been laughing, smiling and eating sweets since I knew the news.
Conformed you brain got damaged and you will die soon.
Will distribute sweets after you death
Conformed you brain got damaged and you will die soon.
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Pineapple
12-14 05:45 PM
Read my previous post explaining how things would work without country limits.
All you need to do is recall basic probability theory from school. No country quotas is the only fair way to go, as it would give any individual a fair go, regardless of nationality. I thought this premise was self evident.. but evidently, I'm wrong, and there is some explanation to do.
I hope explaining the facts and reasoning helps, and the feeling that "country quotas protect smaller countries" has nothing to do with the old saying:
"When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always rely on support from Paul"
:rolleyes:
We are all in this together, guys... As per the original intent of the thread, we were supposed to discuss whether the 7 % quota is constitutional. That discussion is not yet settled.
The main point is, based on current caps and quotas, all of us are stuck.
One way or another, we need to (A) raise number of EB visas, and (B) Eliminate quotas which distort the market and give unfair advantage to one nationality over another.
--What you said sounds very interesting. But it got me thinking, what if the merit is equally distributed by the country of origin and there is a limit to the opportunities this country can provide?
Let us say there are 140,000 EB visas given every year. Based on pure merit and sans any regard to nationality. Don't you think it could potentially lead to more visas being consumed by one country?
What if this country wants to ensure diversity to its social fabric?? How do they go about doing that?
All you need to do is recall basic probability theory from school. No country quotas is the only fair way to go, as it would give any individual a fair go, regardless of nationality. I thought this premise was self evident.. but evidently, I'm wrong, and there is some explanation to do.
I hope explaining the facts and reasoning helps, and the feeling that "country quotas protect smaller countries" has nothing to do with the old saying:
"When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always rely on support from Paul"
:rolleyes:
We are all in this together, guys... As per the original intent of the thread, we were supposed to discuss whether the 7 % quota is constitutional. That discussion is not yet settled.
The main point is, based on current caps and quotas, all of us are stuck.
One way or another, we need to (A) raise number of EB visas, and (B) Eliminate quotas which distort the market and give unfair advantage to one nationality over another.
--What you said sounds very interesting. But it got me thinking, what if the merit is equally distributed by the country of origin and there is a limit to the opportunities this country can provide?
Let us say there are 140,000 EB visas given every year. Based on pure merit and sans any regard to nationality. Don't you think it could potentially lead to more visas being consumed by one country?
What if this country wants to ensure diversity to its social fabric?? How do they go about doing that?
srini1976
09-23 06:23 PM
The only missing information to give an almost 90% accurate prediction of the visa bulletin movement are
1. Will DOS do spillover every quarter or only once every year?
2. What would be the number of eb2 and eb1 visa demand from ROW?
the answer to question 2 can be obtained by getting the number of pending PERM Eb2 petitions with DOL, if we get the answer to question 1 from DOS then we can predict the visa bulletin with almost 90% + accuracy.
I don’t think DOS will do a quarter spillover. If DOS does not do a quarter spillover then it will disastrous for EB2 India because there will be a either a repeat of August 2008 visa bulletin where they might move the visa bulletin up to 2006 or 2007 and basically they will give a visa to whoever irrespective of PD which means people with 2004 and 2005 might get left behind again while people from 2007 and 2007 might get GC or an even more disastrous situation might be that if DOL releases a ton of pending EB2 ROW perm applications they have been holding up for over an year in June-July-august 2010 time then DOS might not do a spillover at all for Eb2 India.
The key difference compared to last year is Pre-Adjudication and improved communication between DOS and USCIS.
If not all, Recent spate of approvals for EB 2 - I (based on spill over) - in first few weeks of September 2009 is itself a proof of their improved service (& Pre-Adjudication)
Most likely spill over should happen Quarterly. If not I agree with you - they can make everyone current in the last Quarter and approve irrespective of Priority Date. But its least likely to happen this year. But you never know about USCIS.
1. Will DOS do spillover every quarter or only once every year?
2. What would be the number of eb2 and eb1 visa demand from ROW?
the answer to question 2 can be obtained by getting the number of pending PERM Eb2 petitions with DOL, if we get the answer to question 1 from DOS then we can predict the visa bulletin with almost 90% + accuracy.
I don’t think DOS will do a quarter spillover. If DOS does not do a quarter spillover then it will disastrous for EB2 India because there will be a either a repeat of August 2008 visa bulletin where they might move the visa bulletin up to 2006 or 2007 and basically they will give a visa to whoever irrespective of PD which means people with 2004 and 2005 might get left behind again while people from 2007 and 2007 might get GC or an even more disastrous situation might be that if DOL releases a ton of pending EB2 ROW perm applications they have been holding up for over an year in June-July-august 2010 time then DOS might not do a spillover at all for Eb2 India.
The key difference compared to last year is Pre-Adjudication and improved communication between DOS and USCIS.
If not all, Recent spate of approvals for EB 2 - I (based on spill over) - in first few weeks of September 2009 is itself a proof of their improved service (& Pre-Adjudication)
Most likely spill over should happen Quarterly. If not I agree with you - they can make everyone current in the last Quarter and approve irrespective of Priority Date. But its least likely to happen this year. But you never know about USCIS.
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jhaalaa
01-13 05:19 PM
IV Core and Administrators
1. AOS applicants using EAD are presently unaffected (if they do not have H1) by this memo. Could you please inquire from USCIS contacts, in case more similar "guidelines" are being planned for folks using EADs?
2. Also is something more being planned/announced for AC21's "same or similar" criteria? A while back we had a thread collecting evidences and suggestions from the IV members about its interpretation. Please help provide a status update about the meetings with USCIS, IV core group discussions and plans, etc.
Thanks for all your efforts.
Best Wishes for all.
1. AOS applicants using EAD are presently unaffected (if they do not have H1) by this memo. Could you please inquire from USCIS contacts, in case more similar "guidelines" are being planned for folks using EADs?
2. Also is something more being planned/announced for AC21's "same or similar" criteria? A while back we had a thread collecting evidences and suggestions from the IV members about its interpretation. Please help provide a status update about the meetings with USCIS, IV core group discussions and plans, etc.
Thanks for all your efforts.
Best Wishes for all.
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helpful_leo
07-28 07:20 PM
Hello there
Thanks for your service.
I needed to ask a very specific question about extending a B-2 visa towards the end of a six month stay for my mom; specifically if she becomes out-of-status during the duration when an EOS application is pending, if the EOS is subsequently denied; and if this (i.e. subsequent denial) voids a multi-year multiple entry visa? I am finding conflicting information on the internet even from USCIS sources about whether or not 212(g) applies when an EOS application is pending.
Thanks for your time.
Thanks for your service.
I needed to ask a very specific question about extending a B-2 visa towards the end of a six month stay for my mom; specifically if she becomes out-of-status during the duration when an EOS application is pending, if the EOS is subsequently denied; and if this (i.e. subsequent denial) voids a multi-year multiple entry visa? I am finding conflicting information on the internet even from USCIS sources about whether or not 212(g) applies when an EOS application is pending.
Thanks for your time.
okuzmin
05-25 12:43 PM
If you have canadian PR, can't you work in US or do you still need a working visa to work in the US?
Thank you.
When you have a Canadian PR, you're still a citizen of your native country. Therefore, you can't get TN status (NAFTA) to enter the USA and work here as a Canadian citizen. However, my Russian friend (he is a Canadian PR, about to apply for citizenship) got a 10-year US business visa (B-1) and can enter the USA at any time. When you're a landed immigrant in Canada, US consulates start treating you very different.
Thank you.
When you have a Canadian PR, you're still a citizen of your native country. Therefore, you can't get TN status (NAFTA) to enter the USA and work here as a Canadian citizen. However, my Russian friend (he is a Canadian PR, about to apply for citizenship) got a 10-year US business visa (B-1) and can enter the USA at any time. When you're a landed immigrant in Canada, US consulates start treating you very different.
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ramus
07-03 05:30 PM
I am working on this... I will get you 100 or even more by 10 p.m. today..
Hi all,
Regarding the recent goofup by USCIS, please rate this story
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if this receives more than 100 users rating for the story in next 5-10 hours - it would be displayed on the first page. Digg.com is read by hundreds of thousands of web users and there is high chance of getting picked by main stream media.
Note that you ll have to signup as digg.com member to rate it - it ll just take 30 secs of your time.
Sorry I wasn't able to submit the official IV prlog.com url since it is not accepted by Digg.
thanks.
Hi all,
Regarding the recent goofup by USCIS, please rate this story
http://digg.com/politics/No_July_4th_Celebrations_for_Highly_Skilled_Future _Americans/who
if this receives more than 100 users rating for the story in next 5-10 hours - it would be displayed on the first page. Digg.com is read by hundreds of thousands of web users and there is high chance of getting picked by main stream media.
Note that you ll have to signup as digg.com member to rate it - it ll just take 30 secs of your time.
Sorry I wasn't able to submit the official IV prlog.com url since it is not accepted by Digg.
thanks.
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rajsenthil
05-02 05:49 PM
Every body knows what happend to kannadigs in chennai, and riots on kannada businesses.
If you want tell me I will give you the THE HINDU ( Chennai Edition) news paper dates so that you can refer to facts.
What ever the drama is being played in Srilanka by aravas if they are going to play those tactics in USA .... immidiately will be kicked out:p
Come on guys.. I can't believe that I am seeing such a support to language terrorists.
Oh, now I understand why you dont make any sense. :cool:
If you want tell me I will give you the THE HINDU ( Chennai Edition) news paper dates so that you can refer to facts.
What ever the drama is being played in Srilanka by aravas if they are going to play those tactics in USA .... immidiately will be kicked out:p
Come on guys.. I can't believe that I am seeing such a support to language terrorists.
Oh, now I understand why you dont make any sense. :cool:
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thecipher5
04-23 12:59 PM
priderock,
There is definately an element of risk and it is high in case of LC substitution. In my case, the LC said that the candidate should have MS and few years of experience and I didn't satisfy all the requirements and eventually got a query from USCIS and rejected the application.
If you can get it approved through a good lawyer like Sheela Murthy or Rajiv Khanna, then you can make a decision.
At times, USCIS doesn't allow to substitute MS degree with experience and it depends on the wording of the LC.
I'd read about this in different forums, talked to lawyers and friends.
Still, you can talk to others who've done it and then make your decision.
-- thecipher5
There is definately an element of risk and it is high in case of LC substitution. In my case, the LC said that the candidate should have MS and few years of experience and I didn't satisfy all the requirements and eventually got a query from USCIS and rejected the application.
If you can get it approved through a good lawyer like Sheela Murthy or Rajiv Khanna, then you can make a decision.
At times, USCIS doesn't allow to substitute MS degree with experience and it depends on the wording of the LC.
I'd read about this in different forums, talked to lawyers and friends.
Still, you can talk to others who've done it and then make your decision.
-- thecipher5
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msp1976
02-18 12:37 PM
I differ with you again, my friend.
The main reason(s) behind less mobilization is this. Pappu described this on a different thread.
1) Ignorance about the true nature of the problem
People like you and I don't know that without a change in the laws, they won't get their greencards for another 10-20 years.
2) Lack of faith and understanding of the system
People like you and I, once they know that they are getting screwed, think that the situation is hopeless. They don't understand that the merits of our case (you alluded to them in your previous posts, the demographic shift due to the baby boomers retiring requires skilled labor in this country), is sufficient to warrant a sympathetic ear to us in the congress. We CAN freaking get out of the mess we are in.
We have to accept these two problems. And then we have to address them. How do we do that? Thats the big question.
I respect your opinion ...but I refuse to believe that people are ignorant...
The main reason(s) behind less mobilization is this. Pappu described this on a different thread.
1) Ignorance about the true nature of the problem
People like you and I don't know that without a change in the laws, they won't get their greencards for another 10-20 years.
2) Lack of faith and understanding of the system
People like you and I, once they know that they are getting screwed, think that the situation is hopeless. They don't understand that the merits of our case (you alluded to them in your previous posts, the demographic shift due to the baby boomers retiring requires skilled labor in this country), is sufficient to warrant a sympathetic ear to us in the congress. We CAN freaking get out of the mess we are in.
We have to accept these two problems. And then we have to address them. How do we do that? Thats the big question.
I respect your opinion ...but I refuse to believe that people are ignorant...
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logiclife
06-28 05:51 PM
Does someone know what date in June they started turning back EB3-Other WOrkers?
That was 5th June as per Oh's website and Oh's website was quoting AILA's memo.
That was 5th June as per Oh's website and Oh's website was quoting AILA's memo.
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diqingshen
07-04 12:40 PM
Can we also contact compete america for their actions? Their members companies must have suffered a lot as well.
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ramus
07-03 03:52 PM
Which congressman did you call?
Thanks.
I talked to someone & got immediate appointment. Few minutes later I got anoter call back to reaffirm teir support
Please call your congressman office. I am only asking them to ask USCIS to receive the application instead of rejecting it
Thanks.
I talked to someone & got immediate appointment. Few minutes later I got anoter call back to reaffirm teir support
Please call your congressman office. I am only asking them to ask USCIS to receive the application instead of rejecting it
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02-14 10:09 PM
longg and msp1976, Could you update your profile with contact information. IV can use your skills.
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05-29 11:11 AM
1] To date there are 60K EB2I and another 60K EB3I I-485 applictaions pending.
2] 3.2K visas were available for EB2I for FY2009.
Assuming 3.2K visas are available every year from now on, it will take 60/3.2=18.75 years for all EB2I applicants upto today to be granted GC.
Unbelievable!
2] 3.2K visas were available for EB2I for FY2009.
Assuming 3.2K visas are available every year from now on, it will take 60/3.2=18.75 years for all EB2I applicants upto today to be granted GC.
Unbelievable!
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BharatPremi
12-13 05:09 PM
If someone from country X, Y, or Z comes in on that same quota, that's OK - but we can't accept folks from countries A, B and C??
jazz
Yes, exactly that is the point. What would be the purpose(backdoor policy theme) to implement Per country limit , particularly for EB category? And why IN, Philipines, MX and china are the only choosen ones?
jazz
Yes, exactly that is the point. What would be the purpose(backdoor policy theme) to implement Per country limit , particularly for EB category? And why IN, Philipines, MX and china are the only choosen ones?
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gc4me
02-13 02:08 PM
That was an example only. A country can use max 7% of total visa. And if you see the EB visa allocation, other than India, China the 3rd largest Visa was taken by Korea (about 4K, don't remember exactly) and the fourth country only used around 1200, all other countries used with in 100s only. So if a country (example Malaysia) uses only 200 Visa and if it had 500 applicant, why 300 people from Malaysia was retrogressed.
There is no such thing as EB3 Nepal, which I'm sure you know. In EB3 ROW, this includes everyone else. I'm sure there are some significant numbers from the UK, Germany, Australian (although they might be separate under E3... not sure), Japan, Tawian.... etc etc the list goes on.
EB3 ROW doesn't just mean those from tiny countries with tiny populations
There is no such thing as EB3 Nepal, which I'm sure you know. In EB3 ROW, this includes everyone else. I'm sure there are some significant numbers from the UK, Germany, Australian (although they might be separate under E3... not sure), Japan, Tawian.... etc etc the list goes on.
EB3 ROW doesn't just mean those from tiny countries with tiny populations
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09-23 11:20 AM
Let's do it
sk2006
03-31 09:08 PM
You should if you belongs to Zimabwe.
I don't know who is real " waste of resources" here ? People who are concerned about their mother country's future or people who call them "waster of resources" !!!
MERA BHARAT MAHAN !
You are worried about your mother country's future but want USA's Green card(And probably eventual citizenship) so that you don't have to go back to your home country..
Height of Hypocrisy!
:confused:
I don't know who is real " waste of resources" here ? People who are concerned about their mother country's future or people who call them "waster of resources" !!!
MERA BHARAT MAHAN !
You are worried about your mother country's future but want USA's Green card(And probably eventual citizenship) so that you don't have to go back to your home country..
Height of Hypocrisy!
:confused:
americandesi
07-11 02:13 PM
Dear Friends, I had it... I am moving to Canada in the next 2 months to work for guess who? Microsoft. Came to USA in 1997 for my masters, worked at Legato, Documentum and Opentext. Had to restart my GC twrice, once as the company laid me off and next for career progression. GC is still years years away. Interviewed with MSFT last month and got an offer to work in their Enterprise Collaboration team. MSFT looked at the visa mess I was in and offered me to work in Vancouver. I get my Canadian GC in 6 months and my wife can work from day one. I am abandoning my US dream for good;guess I would be satisfied with touching my 4 year old son's American passport.
I worked for a canadian company in US and now would be working for a US company in Canada. This is globalization. True Globalization. Any for those whiners belonging to IEEE and its propoganda machine, I would like to mention that I drew salries which were above way above the norm. I am sure I would be drawing more than 2 of his programmers combined. Ron- ask your folks to learn to compete and update their skills. They probably studied studied 'history of mathematics' as a math subject in high school instead of calculus. They were happy that they had the coolest Nintendo games while many like me were burning the midnight old figuring out data structures at Berkeley.
I hope Berney Sanders and his club of the CIR days are hearing the developments. Berney, fix the broken education system for job protection rather than building fences to prevent legal workers to come to this gifted country. More companies will leave for nearshore if the mess continues. Fix the system by closing the H1B loopholes that a small percentage of companies are exploiting. Don't bad mouth the H1B system which has given you so much talent that you could have never groomed, the talented individuals who have contributed to the society, social security system and what not. Patch the holes in the fence, do not erect a higher fence for which people need to pay $ 5000 to cross. And by the way if you have the inclination and the time- fix the broken LEGAL High Skilled immigration system.
You need not give up your American Dream. Once you get your Canadian Citizenship, you can work in US indefinetly with TN visa.
I worked for a canadian company in US and now would be working for a US company in Canada. This is globalization. True Globalization. Any for those whiners belonging to IEEE and its propoganda machine, I would like to mention that I drew salries which were above way above the norm. I am sure I would be drawing more than 2 of his programmers combined. Ron- ask your folks to learn to compete and update their skills. They probably studied studied 'history of mathematics' as a math subject in high school instead of calculus. They were happy that they had the coolest Nintendo games while many like me were burning the midnight old figuring out data structures at Berkeley.
I hope Berney Sanders and his club of the CIR days are hearing the developments. Berney, fix the broken education system for job protection rather than building fences to prevent legal workers to come to this gifted country. More companies will leave for nearshore if the mess continues. Fix the system by closing the H1B loopholes that a small percentage of companies are exploiting. Don't bad mouth the H1B system which has given you so much talent that you could have never groomed, the talented individuals who have contributed to the society, social security system and what not. Patch the holes in the fence, do not erect a higher fence for which people need to pay $ 5000 to cross. And by the way if you have the inclination and the time- fix the broken LEGAL High Skilled immigration system.
You need not give up your American Dream. Once you get your Canadian Citizenship, you can work in US indefinetly with TN visa.
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