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  • piperwarrior
    08-28 07:37 PM
    What people are doing here is basically discounting the value of education. They are questioning the point of going to college at all (or to get a graduate degree), when you can just go to a trade school and learn a programming language that gets you a job. By that logic, why study history, biology, philosophy, languages, etc., if you eventually want to be in the software industry.

    What people need to understand is that education gives you perspective. I don't directly use 95% of the education that I gained in many years of school, college and graduate studies. Does that mean it's worthless? I beg to differ, and so do my employers and people who work with me.

    I stand corrected. I misunderstood his statement. I thought he was referring to a non-US degree. Yes, I agree, a sound theoretical foundation goes a long way.

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  • crazy_gc
    02-01 07:38 PM
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  • vrbest
    03-11 02:25 PM
    Yes. You can provide new address. I have done this twice and had no issues.

    My current passport has my old India residential address. Now, my parents have moved to a new address. When I apply for new passport, can I provide my new India address?Do I have to provide any proof for that?Has anyone had this situation?

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  • mnkaushik
    04-08 02:45 PM

    The cut-off dates for the Employment Third and Third preference �Other Worker� categories were held and then retrogressed in an effort to bring demand within the average monthly usage targets and the overall annual numerical limits. Despite these efforts, the amount of demand received from Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices for adjustment of status cases with priority dates that were significantly earlier than the established cut-off dates remained extremely high. As a result, these annual limits have been reached and both categories have become �Unavailable.�

    Visa availability in these categories will resume in October, the first month of the new fiscal year.


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  • reddymjm
    07-14 11:15 AM
    Why this special treatment to EB2...

    EB2 is getting all the spill over.

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  • peer123
    06-13 11:18 PM
    Well it is worse than you thought.

    People who haven't even started their green card process yet can buy a labor from any bodyshop, use it to file their 140 and 485 concurrently and get a foothold in the great american GC mela. Howzaat.

    I am not negative if I say --- most IV member want to change job--- frustration with status co may be... --- feeling exploited... --- may be....


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  • Mil
    03-12 10:43 PM
    Hope this helps you

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  • gcjones
    05-07 03:35 PM
    Labor Filing Date : 10/18/2007
    Audit Replied Date : 12/28/2007
    Category : EB2
    Industry: IT
    Country of Origin : India
    NPC: Atlanta


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  • snathan
    05-15 09:49 AM
    When every one send individual letter, they will read the first one and then will just ignore others. Because the content and issue is same. When we 50+ people send one neatly drafted letter...I am sure it will draw considerable attention. Ron is willing to help us. I am not sure if we need to hire him for this. If so, how many of you ready to share the expense.

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  • Saralayar
    04-15 04:02 PM
    To whoever left the comment in my profile "why all this love for US Passport?"

    It all depends on what country you are a citizen of. If you are a passport holder of a country like Canada,Autralia or most european countries, then you may not see much benefit in holding a US passport when travelling. But people from certain other countries, have to go through the hassle of obtaining visas prior to international travel, vacations etc. Sometimes we even have to get transit visas for countries that we pass through on our way to the final destinations. And these visas cost money. But if you hold a US passport/citizen of the US, then they do not make you jump through all those hoops. You board the plane and you get a visitors visa once you land in almost all countries (there are exceptions, India and Australia for example). But there it is. That is one of the priviledges of having a US passport.


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  • texcan
    01-24 12:25 PM
    Nothing about this behavior is specific to Indians. It is a first generation immigrant behavior. See if you children are going to do it...

    Really? An active lifestyle, being outdoors, energetic etc. are qualities of an American? A country where 70% of people are supposed to be overweight? Where some say 30% to 40% of schoolchildren are obese? I would agree with your argument for an active lifestyle versus a lazy one. However generalizing to things like getting up early/running/trekking/outdoorsy etc. as typical American traits is pushing it.

    If I want to catch up on my sleep on the weekends, why not? I sleep less than 6 hours a day on average during the week. Sleeping less = poor output and also has been linked to poor cardiac health.

    You dont have to blindly believe that everything that is American is good.
    For example, Americans work the longest hours of any developed country. Does this increase your standard of living. They have the fewest holidays/vacation days.

    Maybe doing things separately is your "American way" of fun. Doing things with my family is my way. What's wrong with that. At least we dont have a 50% divorce rate and dont kick our kids out of our homes when they turn 18.

    I go out and meet friends by myself. Why does it have to be all boys? Why do I have to drink beer (yucky/stinky stuff by the way). My wife does the same with her friends. Kid is too youg for this.

    My point is you are trying to fit into your image of an american. You will never fit in completely. You are hoping your beer buddies are laughing with you and not at you. Be yourself- however Indian or American it may be.

    My friend Achoo,

    thanks for taking time to read my long post.
    I like healthy criticism, good view points.

    I still believe that the points i mentioned in post are true, from my experience;
    but anyone else does'nt have to believe in them at all.
    Most discussion on topics of lifestyle are subjective and contextual, thats why hard to explain ones point of view to anyone else.

    My simple policy is, i donot care how my kids or beer buddies are behaving; i do make sure i do no harm and enjoy my exercise ( marathons) and beer.....

    thanks for reading.

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  • buddhaas
    07-16 01:33 PM
    scroll down half way to see the chart from DOS USCIS.

    Let Them In Page 2 of 2 - (


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  • indyanguy
    01-28 07:54 PM
    Indian Guy, the link is

    But, I am not sure if Chintu is here to host it.,

    It takes me to the homepage :(

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  • thomachan72
    04-09 08:24 AM
    one another suggestion I have to make is this:
    We need to get Indian/Chinese community (citizens) involved to fight for us.
    We need to have some of them as leaders in the IV. (they could be people who have struggled with the EB process and identify with us) they could be highly successful Indian/chinese or other countries businessmen/scientists/media personal etc etc (if possible)

    Remember the strength of the ilegal community is that their legal brothers and sisters dont hate them but always stand with them.

    We somehow ( I have no clue how) need to get this to happen. Also each one of us who are currently here should make a pledge that "Even if my card is printed, I will continue to use the extra freedom that I got to always stand up and fight for my brothers and sisters who are struggling with this system".


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  • pitha
    02-02 09:14 AM
    There is a laundry list of things which are all good. Unfortunately I dont see anything realted to the ability to file 485 when priority date is not current.

    I guess it does not matter since this never passed. I can only hope that this does not become a trend and 485 measure is forgotten

    I apologize for this mistake to everyone .....I changed the header to reflect my error.


    I may be completely wrong but this is what I see on

    Appended to the Minimum wage bill was SA187 which amends SA112 sponsored by John Kerry and consponsored by Sununu, Snowe, Landrieu and Lieberman.

    Senate Amendment SA 187 seems to have passed with unanimous consent. This is what it apparently contains among a lot of other stuff... Please correct me if I am wrong.




    (b) Employment-Based Immigrants.--Section 201(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(d)) is amended to read as follows:

    ``(d) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants.--The worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under this subsection for a fiscal year is equal to the sum of--

    ``(1) 290,000;

    ``(2) the difference between the maximum number of visas authorized to be issued under this subsection during the previous fiscal year and the number of visas issued during the previous fiscal year; and

    ``(3) the difference between--

    ``(A) the maximum number of visas authorized to be issued under this subsection during fiscal years 2001 through 2005 and the number of visa numbers issued under this subsection during those years; and

    ``(B) the number of visas described in subparagraph (A) that were issued after fiscal year 2005.''.


    Section 202(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1152(a)) is amended--

    (1) in paragraph (2)--

    (A) by striking ``, (4), and (5)'' and inserting ``and (4)''; and

    (B) by striking ``7 percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or 2 percent'' and inserting ``10 percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or 5 percent''; and

    (2) by striking paragraph (5).


    (b) Preference Allocation for Employment-Based Immigrants.--Section 203(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1153(b)) is amended--

    (1) in paragraph (1), by striking ``28.6 percent'' and inserting ``20 percent'';

    (2) in paragraph (2)(A), by striking ``28.6 percent'' and inserting ``20 percent'';

    (3) in paragraph (3)(A)--

    (A) by striking ``28.6 percent'' and inserting ``35 percent''; and

    (B) by striking clause (iii);

    (4) by striking paragraph (4);

    (5) by redesignating paragraph (5) as paragraph (4);

    (6) in paragraph (4)(A), as redesignated, by striking ``7.1 percent'' and inserting ``5 percent'';

    (7) by inserting after paragraph (4), as redesignated, the following:


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  • Chris Rock
    09-25 02:13 AM
    Everywhere I am seeing few EB-3 india folks showing concern about the grim outlook for EB-3 india due to retrogression, noone else care about this.

    It looks like many EB-3 RoW folks are relying on the VISA spillover to them and becoming "c" very soon....I dont see any reactions at all from those members either on or IV forums.

    Writing to US senators and Congress Reps is the way to get some relief for EB-3 india. Each one of us should write our own story and present this USCIS pending inventory to them and educate them on how long it will take for us to receive LPR status without any releif from US congress.

    VISA recapture will be easier to pass in US congress and IV should start campaign for VISA recapture. IV will receive lots of funding if they initiate this campaign as many EB-3 india folks are willing to donate for this cause.

    Hi Raju,

    You hit the nail on its head. The Eb3I participation is very very less. Look at EB2 specific threads. There are 25000 views. EB3I specific threads is a mere 2000. In fact EB3I is supposed to be a biggger group.

    Here are my theories:
    - EB3I guys lost hope in IV and stopped visiting IV
    - EB3I guys work in low level jobs without access to Internet even in office or home (certainly cannot be the case)
    - EB3I does not know about IV at all for the past 4 years (hmmm...)
    - EB3I just bury their heads in sand looking for a miracle

    This is a bigger problem than the EB3I backlog problem.

    I know many guys in this forum who are regular contributers are missing here. What really is going on?


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  • Kodi
    05-08 12:17 PM
    That's tough. I just filed today. I really thought the max wait would be 3 months but you said its already been 3 months. My H1 is expiring Dec 1, 2007.

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  • xyzgc
    01-22 08:50 PM

    I believe you have poured your heart out there! Wonderful job! I believe most of the sane members here totally respect your decision to buy a home without GC.

    Having said that, although your description of half-a-day's work gave me goosebumps, I'm not too carried away. If it happens, it happens! I'd go back to my home country with the fond memory of 10 years of life here! As you said, we wont go back empty handed. Came to US with just $200 in the pocket!

    Relax and enjoy your home,

    No issues if you go back. That can happen to anybody. Nobody is safe in this country.

    Make sure you pay off your mortgages if you do and cover all your liabilities.

    There should be criminal action against loan defaulters, otherwise lessons won't be learnt.
    And if you don't want to persecute these sons of bitches, give a portion of my tax money back, which I paid for last 9 frigging years, which has gone into these bailouts. I'm not even asking for the loss of revenue my company has endured due to our customers (high profile banks) slashing their IT expenditure. I cannot. Don't compensate me for the ripple effect but at least compensate me for the prospect of job losses me and thousands like me face this HISTORIC year of 2009, when a white president has entered the black house ..oops a black president has entered the white house.

    (I'm not making anything up, everything I wrote about my company's customers is true).

    Immigrants who don't pay off and run away should be extradited and put behind bars.

    Yes, we can. Yes, we can change. Yes, we can. And folks, if you don't like my language, consider me insane and leave it at that but give my tax money back not in IOU and promissary notes but in checks.

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  • santb1975
    04-07 04:37 PM
    Please..Please sign up to be part of Team IV

    07-15 04:49 PM

    Please ignore sickos like oscarzumaran and eastindia. They derive some sadistic pleasure in people responding to their filthy posts.
    They don't deserve our responses.

    10-12 02:52 PM
    gc chahiye.. both polls were excellent.. can you redo them and see if we can get a larger sample size?

    I wonder how many of the PD earlier than 2003, I-485 filed and 2004 PD, I-485 filed and 2005 PD, I-485 filed must have gotten gcs in the july fiasco.

    My many friends from EB3 -Jan to Jun 2003 PD are still in process. I have met 2 EB2-May 2003PD guys already having GC. Very small sample but thought to mention it.

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