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spicy_guy
07-12 05:49 PM
Pappu,
I've sent you a PM. Please let me know. We are committed to follow the instructions of IV leadership to take this further.
All,
Please send me a PM to me join in this parallel effort. Lets collect a list of folks and organize a dedicated effort.
I fully second Pappu's comment as the current IV core leadership does not have time/$$ to spend on Citizenhip. Getting GC for all of us has and should be the first priority. Thanks to IV core and many of us fellow volunteers, their effort has paid off as things are moving decently fast for EB2 for now. Hopefully our fellow EB3 friends also see some hope in FY'11. As I was saying in the previous posts, many big corps have not filed for new labors in FY'08, FY'09 which should free up many ROW visas. This should help EB3 in the near future.
I think we need a kind of checklist on this effort to do this in an organized manner.
IV can help on that.
Also, will need to collect the folks who are willing to join.. I am sure there would be a lot.
Need to gather support from other groups like Immi List, Immigration for America, Murthy, etc.
I've sent you a PM. Please let me know. We are committed to follow the instructions of IV leadership to take this further.
All,
Please send me a PM to me join in this parallel effort. Lets collect a list of folks and organize a dedicated effort.
I fully second Pappu's comment as the current IV core leadership does not have time/$$ to spend on Citizenhip. Getting GC for all of us has and should be the first priority. Thanks to IV core and many of us fellow volunteers, their effort has paid off as things are moving decently fast for EB2 for now. Hopefully our fellow EB3 friends also see some hope in FY'11. As I was saying in the previous posts, many big corps have not filed for new labors in FY'08, FY'09 which should free up many ROW visas. This should help EB3 in the near future.
I think we need a kind of checklist on this effort to do this in an organized manner.
IV can help on that.
Also, will need to collect the folks who are willing to join.. I am sure there would be a lot.
Need to gather support from other groups like Immi List, Immigration for America, Murthy, etc.
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Macaca
06-26 07:49 PM
DOS allocates GC numbers to USCIS adjustment cases only as the point of approval is reached. DOS can set/move/retrogress PD based on info provided by USCIS about number of cases at point of approval.
USCIS is not able to provide a good estimate of this number because
it can not calculate this number based on USCISs workload, and
it does not know the number of cases DOL will send to them. DOL again can not calculate the number of cases (it will send to USCIS) based on DOLs worload.
The following are from page 35 and beginning of page 36
The key to addressing this management issue at USCIS is to understand the dynamic interplay of priority dates and shifting workloads of three departments, and to know with greater precision and accuracy the size and details of USCIS� workloads.
The tri-agency meetings seek to expand inter-agency communication regarding expected new demands and surges, workflows, and priority dates. During the meetings, there is an examination of the case management systems and data collection processes used to assess workflows through each entity, particularly USCIS.
Although USCIS stated in its 2006 Annual Report Response (at p. 8) that it provides detailed data to DOS, the tri-agency group identified gaps in USCIS� data.
USCIS is not able to provide a good estimate of this number because
it can not calculate this number based on USCISs workload, and
it does not know the number of cases DOL will send to them. DOL again can not calculate the number of cases (it will send to USCIS) based on DOLs worload.
The following are from page 35 and beginning of page 36
The key to addressing this management issue at USCIS is to understand the dynamic interplay of priority dates and shifting workloads of three departments, and to know with greater precision and accuracy the size and details of USCIS� workloads.
The tri-agency meetings seek to expand inter-agency communication regarding expected new demands and surges, workflows, and priority dates. During the meetings, there is an examination of the case management systems and data collection processes used to assess workflows through each entity, particularly USCIS.
Although USCIS stated in its 2006 Annual Report Response (at p. 8) that it provides detailed data to DOS, the tri-agency group identified gaps in USCIS� data.
speddi
06-02 02:11 PM
it seems lot of people who filed between 4/15 and 4/31 have this problem..others seem to get the approvals in quick time.
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gcpadmavyuh
09-21 03:08 PM
Ann Ruben of "Steel, Rudnick and Ruben" Law firm.
She was very sweet, she said 'I'm tired of telling my clients that all you can do is wait.' Now she can tell them, you can do something about it. You have IV.
What is her name.
She was very sweet, she said 'I'm tired of telling my clients that all you can do is wait.' Now she can tell them, you can do something about it. You have IV.
What is her name.
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usirit
05-27 12:07 PM
Snathan;
Is the below template the one that you are referring to?
Name, Company Name, Case Number, Filing Date, Audit Date and Signature at the end.
Let us know about the address where it will need to be sent.
Thank you for all your support and assistance with Ron...
As the template is ready, I urge everyone to move and write the letter. But I am waiting for MMS reply as he has collected the details. So far I am not getting any response on this. Sooner you move, its better for you.
Is the below template the one that you are referring to?
Name, Company Name, Case Number, Filing Date, Audit Date and Signature at the end.
Let us know about the address where it will need to be sent.
Thank you for all your support and assistance with Ron...
As the template is ready, I urge everyone to move and write the letter. But I am waiting for MMS reply as he has collected the details. So far I am not getting any response on this. Sooner you move, its better for you.
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aat0995
11-27 08:27 AM
Thank you! That does help. I shall provide an affidavit.
And the link is useful too.
Now a general question : for kids of 5 or 8 year old, the application should have their 'thumb print', right? It does say "thumb print of applicant or legal guardian", but I see no value in signing for them - there's no way to identify the child if I sign there... Or am I missing something why it's better for me to sign? (There's two places for signature/thumb-print : to sign for the application, and also at the 'specimen signature' spot).
If they write thumb print then you can always provide it. Infact, it is there so that even the old people who cannot write can give their thumb print. So it won't hurt. Also, it looked to me that they are not too picky(like USCIS).
Good luck.
And the link is useful too.
Now a general question : for kids of 5 or 8 year old, the application should have their 'thumb print', right? It does say "thumb print of applicant or legal guardian", but I see no value in signing for them - there's no way to identify the child if I sign there... Or am I missing something why it's better for me to sign? (There's two places for signature/thumb-print : to sign for the application, and also at the 'specimen signature' spot).
If they write thumb print then you can always provide it. Infact, it is there so that even the old people who cannot write can give their thumb print. So it won't hurt. Also, it looked to me that they are not too picky(like USCIS).
Good luck.
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my2cents
01-25 03:14 PM
Yes, that is what the trend look like. There is probably another 5-10% fall in the works. Perhaps even more. I agree with you on that.
However, the million dollar question is how do you know the prices have actually bottomed one? Won't you go ahead and buy if its affordable, instead of wasting precious years which shorten the career span and deferring your decision? Its almost like deciding when to have your first child...well..almost. There is never really a good time, is there?
By affordable, I mean its around 'x' times your (dual) income, you have your green card and you are prepared to live in the US for next 5 years at least (even if there is any family emergency, you don't have any compulsion to sell off your assets and move to India for good). Now, 'x' may mean different for different people but generally people seem to agree x = 3. And I also agree with you that it might happen that american housing is always affordable. Yes, it might but for most middle class in SFO Bay area, when x was 7-10, it wasn't affordable at all!
I completely oppose folks like Slumdog doing something terribly rash (no gc, no prospect of gc within a year, single income with a baby, baby having some health issues and to top it all the burden of a heavy mortgage on the shoulders, god, I think his situation is simply awful...) but the way I read it is that these indeterminate immigration waits are making people throw caution to the winds.
And I don't agree with folks who feel that buying your house is like renting it out simply because it is mortgaged. There is big difference, eventually its get all paid off and you start actually owning it. Secondly, for a lot of people that they can sell it during their retirement and use the sale proceeds to cover the retirement life. There is very good chance real estate would have appreciated over long term. Of course, you are just interested in 'flipping' you are asking for big trouble.
I bought my house in 2004 and here we are in 2009 - stayed 5 years . house went up to $430 ( from $330K) and then down to $300. Lost 10% so far . I made sure that mortgage+living expenses is within 1 salary (have dual income) . if I stay another 3-4 years i will break even at any price. Yes if i would have bought house in 2006 (peak) and got a job problem in 2008 yes- i would be in terrible situation.
Let's say if i would not bought the house - i would have used 10% down payment ( $33K) in some kind of investment (Stocks, bonds or CDs'). Based upon today's stock market i would have lost 30% on that until i would have withdrawn in 2008 Jan where market was at peak.
There is never really a good time, is there? . Now housing is almost bottom and interest rate is so low now - but job market is terrible and you need to be careful about your job. Now let's say job market get's better in 2010 and you plan buy a house in 2011. you think you will have everything in order in 2011 . Make no mistake, you will another set of worry and things to take care.
You need to take best decision based upon ur situation and need to minimize risk. You can only minimize the risk and not eliminate. A certain degree of risk is there in every step of life.
I am 485 Filer ( EB3-I 2002 PD )
However, the million dollar question is how do you know the prices have actually bottomed one? Won't you go ahead and buy if its affordable, instead of wasting precious years which shorten the career span and deferring your decision? Its almost like deciding when to have your first child...well..almost. There is never really a good time, is there?
By affordable, I mean its around 'x' times your (dual) income, you have your green card and you are prepared to live in the US for next 5 years at least (even if there is any family emergency, you don't have any compulsion to sell off your assets and move to India for good). Now, 'x' may mean different for different people but generally people seem to agree x = 3. And I also agree with you that it might happen that american housing is always affordable. Yes, it might but for most middle class in SFO Bay area, when x was 7-10, it wasn't affordable at all!
I completely oppose folks like Slumdog doing something terribly rash (no gc, no prospect of gc within a year, single income with a baby, baby having some health issues and to top it all the burden of a heavy mortgage on the shoulders, god, I think his situation is simply awful...) but the way I read it is that these indeterminate immigration waits are making people throw caution to the winds.
And I don't agree with folks who feel that buying your house is like renting it out simply because it is mortgaged. There is big difference, eventually its get all paid off and you start actually owning it. Secondly, for a lot of people that they can sell it during their retirement and use the sale proceeds to cover the retirement life. There is very good chance real estate would have appreciated over long term. Of course, you are just interested in 'flipping' you are asking for big trouble.
I bought my house in 2004 and here we are in 2009 - stayed 5 years . house went up to $430 ( from $330K) and then down to $300. Lost 10% so far . I made sure that mortgage+living expenses is within 1 salary (have dual income) . if I stay another 3-4 years i will break even at any price. Yes if i would have bought house in 2006 (peak) and got a job problem in 2008 yes- i would be in terrible situation.
Let's say if i would not bought the house - i would have used 10% down payment ( $33K) in some kind of investment (Stocks, bonds or CDs'). Based upon today's stock market i would have lost 30% on that until i would have withdrawn in 2008 Jan where market was at peak.
There is never really a good time, is there? . Now housing is almost bottom and interest rate is so low now - but job market is terrible and you need to be careful about your job. Now let's say job market get's better in 2010 and you plan buy a house in 2011. you think you will have everything in order in 2011 . Make no mistake, you will another set of worry and things to take care.
You need to take best decision based upon ur situation and need to minimize risk. You can only minimize the risk and not eliminate. A certain degree of risk is there in every step of life.
I am 485 Filer ( EB3-I 2002 PD )
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lifestrikes
01-12 11:16 AM
This what I'm doing
1) Sent email to Congressman
2) Sent email to friends in this area and have to them send email.
3) Sent email to other friends in my network and asked them to do the same.
4) Going to call to setup meeting.
1) Sent email to Congressman
2) Sent email to friends in this area and have to them send email.
3) Sent email to other friends in my network and asked them to do the same.
4) Going to call to setup meeting.
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pappu
01-11 07:49 PM
Membership count today: 8,226
All pls keep up the good work
Pls use this tool
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
to send mails to all your friends and also ask them to forward it further
Today's count
Members: 8,335
about 100 members in 3 days. All your efforts are working. Keep posting on other sites and send IV info to your friends
All pls keep up the good work
Pls use this tool
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
to send mails to all your friends and also ask them to forward it further
Today's count
Members: 8,335
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radhay
09-24 12:22 PM
I think PD recapturing is the only solution. We don't know if CIR will pass in 2010 or 2011. Neither do we know that if that is good or bad for legal immigration.
Guys we should work with IV to get the PD recapture.
Since CIR is pushed back now , timing is perfect.
Guys we should work with IV to get the PD recapture.
Since CIR is pushed back now , timing is perfect.
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a_yaja
04-26 03:57 PM
Will my application selected if I get my ITIN number? I clearly understand that it is for Tax purpose, but as it also comes from the same department I am bit curious to know about it.
ITIN number is issued by IRS (Internal Revenue Service). H1B is issued by USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services). IRS comes under Treasury Dept., USCIS comes under the Homeland Security. Don't see how the two are the same - other than being different branches of the govt.
Having an ITIN number will not qualify you for a H1B automatically. You can get an ITIN number even if you are not in this country legally. As of today, IRS cannot share it's information with anyone - not even the police. As per IRS, even a thief must file income tax and the thief can take deductions for the tools he buys to carry out his trade :)
ITIN number is issued by IRS (Internal Revenue Service). H1B is issued by USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services). IRS comes under Treasury Dept., USCIS comes under the Homeland Security. Don't see how the two are the same - other than being different branches of the govt.
Having an ITIN number will not qualify you for a H1B automatically. You can get an ITIN number even if you are not in this country legally. As of today, IRS cannot share it's information with anyone - not even the police. As per IRS, even a thief must file income tax and the thief can take deductions for the tools he buys to carry out his trade :)
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Saralayar
04-07 08:50 PM
A similar concern was raised during the CIS Ombudsman teleconference held on August 16, 2007. But nothing conclusive came out of it. Refer http://www.murthy.com/news/n_ombsci.html
"Other questions included the concern that time spent waiting for the adjudication of one's green card application is not being counted against the standard five-year physical presence requirement to qualify for U.S. citizenship."
Very good reference. I think we need to include this in our agenda for the phase 2 campaign.
"Other questions included the concern that time spent waiting for the adjudication of one's green card application is not being counted against the standard five-year physical presence requirement to qualify for U.S. citizenship."
Very good reference. I think we need to include this in our agenda for the phase 2 campaign.
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rahulpaper
06-29 06:57 PM
some assumptions and calculations with answer = 750k . You are right to get this 750K approved it will take 5 years.. ...one more thing to consider is country level limitations. and EB1/2/3 limitations...ROW and China may already be catching up (may not even need 5 years)...India will need 50 years not 5 years to catch up.
My 2 cents..
Every one is here is emotional, after seeing the beautiful collective work of USCIS/DOS/DOL/AILA ect.. Now AILA is jumping high between sky and earth and due to the mismanagement of system. Everyone knows both USCIS/DOS is mismanaging the process. However, What AILA was doing when DOS issued the visa bulletin 15 days back? Do you thing, AILA did not know the estimate of number of 485s going to be filed in the month of July? Why did not they call USCIS and DOS about the implication of making all categories current? Why did they not advised their client that there is a mistake in VB, it is not possible it will become current in just one month? All of sudden, why they are jumping and collects all the money from customers to file 485?
Here is my estimate how many 485s is going to be filed in July.
BEC has almost cleared all the backlogs. The rough estimate about 200,000 LC might have been certified by BEC. Let�s assume about 150K out of 200K candidates held back due to retrogression from 2004 to 2007. Let us assume 150 K PERM LC certified between March 2005 and June 2007 affected by retrogression. Therefore about 300K (primary) people will go for 485 in July. If we add dependents it will be another 450K. Therefore about 750K 485s+ 750K AP + 600K EAD applications will be filed in the month of july.
If 750K 485s filled in one month, we need about 5 years sum of EB visa numbers. It needs 5 years to issue the visa. There should be 750,000 EB visas should be immediately available as on July, to make all EB categories current. There are only 40,000 visas available as of June. Does AILA do not aware of this simple estimation?
There are 40,000 eligible/approvable 485 are currently pending with USCIS. The composition of PD and country of chargeability may vary between 2001 and 2007. In order to issue 40,000 remaining visas to already pending 485s they made all categories current, otherwise it will get wasted. In order to approve a 485 the PD should be current. That�s why they made it current. It is not for accepting 750,000 485s, when available number is just 40,000. AILA should have aware of it and advised the USCIS/DOS and customers properly
My 2 cents..
Every one is here is emotional, after seeing the beautiful collective work of USCIS/DOS/DOL/AILA ect.. Now AILA is jumping high between sky and earth and due to the mismanagement of system. Everyone knows both USCIS/DOS is mismanaging the process. However, What AILA was doing when DOS issued the visa bulletin 15 days back? Do you thing, AILA did not know the estimate of number of 485s going to be filed in the month of July? Why did not they call USCIS and DOS about the implication of making all categories current? Why did they not advised their client that there is a mistake in VB, it is not possible it will become current in just one month? All of sudden, why they are jumping and collects all the money from customers to file 485?
Here is my estimate how many 485s is going to be filed in July.
BEC has almost cleared all the backlogs. The rough estimate about 200,000 LC might have been certified by BEC. Let�s assume about 150K out of 200K candidates held back due to retrogression from 2004 to 2007. Let us assume 150 K PERM LC certified between March 2005 and June 2007 affected by retrogression. Therefore about 300K (primary) people will go for 485 in July. If we add dependents it will be another 450K. Therefore about 750K 485s+ 750K AP + 600K EAD applications will be filed in the month of july.
If 750K 485s filled in one month, we need about 5 years sum of EB visa numbers. It needs 5 years to issue the visa. There should be 750,000 EB visas should be immediately available as on July, to make all EB categories current. There are only 40,000 visas available as of June. Does AILA do not aware of this simple estimation?
There are 40,000 eligible/approvable 485 are currently pending with USCIS. The composition of PD and country of chargeability may vary between 2001 and 2007. In order to issue 40,000 remaining visas to already pending 485s they made all categories current, otherwise it will get wasted. In order to approve a 485 the PD should be current. That�s why they made it current. It is not for accepting 750,000 485s, when available number is just 40,000. AILA should have aware of it and advised the USCIS/DOS and customers properly
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illusions
04-08 05:18 PM
There are lot of support and response for this thread and can Core IV team consider this to be included in their Phase 2 campaign?. It will be an added feature for our to be legal immigrant community. ^^ Bump^^
IMHO this would be great. i know i will be here supporting IV even after i get my GC. The truth of the matter is most users disappear as soon as they get their GC and stop supporting the greater cause (correct me if i'm wrong) of getting one's citizenship. I'm pretty sure we will probably see more users joining in to support this phase.
Then there are also the ones, that have the mindset that since getting the GC most of the weight is lifted off ones shoulders, and one can do pretty much (not all of course) anything that a citizen can. So the waiting for 5 years is not a burden to most. I'm not too sure if this is the case with everybody, but some that i know feel that way....
IMHO this would be great. i know i will be here supporting IV even after i get my GC. The truth of the matter is most users disappear as soon as they get their GC and stop supporting the greater cause (correct me if i'm wrong) of getting one's citizenship. I'm pretty sure we will probably see more users joining in to support this phase.
Then there are also the ones, that have the mindset that since getting the GC most of the weight is lifted off ones shoulders, and one can do pretty much (not all of course) anything that a citizen can. So the waiting for 5 years is not a burden to most. I'm not too sure if this is the case with everybody, but some that i know feel that way....
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tonyHK12
01-16 11:59 AM
Here is a very good document from the 'Advocacy' tab in the IV site on meeting lawmakers:
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/HowTo_Guide_MeetLawmakers.doc
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belmontboy
01-12 05:36 PM
What is really suprising and shocking is that in EB community itself EB2 does not care to listen and provide and open discussion about EB3 issues. Now according to me that is shocking
Eb1 doesnot care about Eb2 & Eb3.
Eb2 doesnot care about Eb1 & Eb3.
Eb3 doesnot care about Eb1 & Eb2.
Embarrassingly this is the truth!!!
Eb1 doesnot care about Eb2 & Eb3.
Eb2 doesnot care about Eb1 & Eb3.
Eb3 doesnot care about Eb1 & Eb2.
Embarrassingly this is the truth!!!
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RandyK
03-18 05:16 PM
Last month Ron G predicted the April visa bulletin and he did have a very good logical reason for it, he did go into details about it on his forum. He was NOT told by Oppenheimer what the bulletin was going to look like.
Ron only wrote to Oppenheimer to clarify the April Bulletin�s wording after it came out about visa number flow from EB1 to EB2 Retrogressed countries.
I have to say Ron is pretty impressive, I learned a ton by visiting his forum, he knows a lot about the inner workings of USCIS.
For example I was under the impression that USCIS followed strict procedures when it came to PDs and that processing dates schedules were correct all the time. Now I have a totally different opinion.
it does contradict with what they said in April VB, but Ron said that his source is Oppenheimer. so I would go with what he said. remember, it was Oppenheimer who told him back in Feb or early Mar that India EB2 will have a cutoff date in April.
Ron only wrote to Oppenheimer to clarify the April Bulletin�s wording after it came out about visa number flow from EB1 to EB2 Retrogressed countries.
I have to say Ron is pretty impressive, I learned a ton by visiting his forum, he knows a lot about the inner workings of USCIS.
For example I was under the impression that USCIS followed strict procedures when it came to PDs and that processing dates schedules were correct all the time. Now I have a totally different opinion.
it does contradict with what they said in April VB, but Ron said that his source is Oppenheimer. so I would go with what he said. remember, it was Oppenheimer who told him back in Feb or early Mar that India EB2 will have a cutoff date in April.
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satyasaich
06-07 02:15 PM
Hi all
Conference committee and its proceedings are always closed-door things. Remember there is alittle one can do. also considering the gravity of the situation, i'd say just wait. i know that's not the best scenario but it is what it is
i don't think the committee not yet formed, in the first place and there is no time line / rule that guides about conference committe proceedings
I have the same question. What's the latest about CIR/House? Is IV Core team working on something? No words from IV core team about CIR..!
Conference committee and its proceedings are always closed-door things. Remember there is alittle one can do. also considering the gravity of the situation, i'd say just wait. i know that's not the best scenario but it is what it is
i don't think the committee not yet formed, in the first place and there is no time line / rule that guides about conference committe proceedings
I have the same question. What's the latest about CIR/House? Is IV Core team working on something? No words from IV core team about CIR..!
Michael chertoff
02-25 07:58 PM
Hotel near capitol hill. We will post it soon. But all our meetings are in this area.
I am not registered but will be there with atleast 10+ friends.
MC
I am not registered but will be there with atleast 10+ friends.
MC
reddysn
05-23 07:51 PM
Your lawyer will receive the approved doc
of around 8 pages. It will be mentioned some where I guess in the doc.
Is there any documents you will receive after your Perm has approved? And how can I know it's a EB2 perm or a EB3 perm?
Yes, I have some trusty issues with my employer and the attorney is hired by my employer. :mad:
of around 8 pages. It will be mentioned some where I guess in the doc.
Is there any documents you will receive after your Perm has approved? And how can I know it's a EB2 perm or a EB3 perm?
Yes, I have some trusty issues with my employer and the attorney is hired by my employer. :mad:
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