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06-14 01:15 PM
All those who are still waiting in BEC black hole, I feel for you. I was stuck in BEC for four years. Only managed to get out a couple of months ago after they allowed TR cases to be converted to RIR.
I tend to think the same way as chanduv23. Our final goal is a Green card, and it may still turn out that the people who are currently still waiting in BEC may end up getting their GC in hand before many of the ones that can apply for 485 in July.
The reason is that USCIS has clearly stated that it will retrogress big time in September. So, people with recent PDs may get to file their 485 but may have to wait for a long time for their PD to become current again to get the approval notice (folks, I am not wishing ill against any group here! I wish we all got our GCs ASAP. But since that is not going to happen, just trying to analyze facts). On the other hand, if BEC comes through with their sep 07 prediction, then these people with much older PDs may be able to apply for their 140/485 at that time and may end up getting their GC 6-12 months later because their PDs will still be current at the time of approval (Of course, this is assuming that they will not get caught in the Name Check Black hole)
So, all those who are still stuck in BEC, please hang in there, your day of freedom will arrive (maybe sooner than you are currently thinking).
My prayers are with you all guys who are stuck at BECs and waiting for more than threes like I did. As someone said, Good things come to those who waits.
I tend to think the same way as chanduv23. Our final goal is a Green card, and it may still turn out that the people who are currently still waiting in BEC may end up getting their GC in hand before many of the ones that can apply for 485 in July.
The reason is that USCIS has clearly stated that it will retrogress big time in September. So, people with recent PDs may get to file their 485 but may have to wait for a long time for their PD to become current again to get the approval notice (folks, I am not wishing ill against any group here! I wish we all got our GCs ASAP. But since that is not going to happen, just trying to analyze facts). On the other hand, if BEC comes through with their sep 07 prediction, then these people with much older PDs may be able to apply for their 140/485 at that time and may end up getting their GC 6-12 months later because their PDs will still be current at the time of approval (Of course, this is assuming that they will not get caught in the Name Check Black hole)
So, all those who are still stuck in BEC, please hang in there, your day of freedom will arrive (maybe sooner than you are currently thinking).
My prayers are with you all guys who are stuck at BECs and waiting for more than threes like I did. As someone said, Good things come to those who waits.
Libra
06-14 09:58 AM
Ask your employer keep everything ready backlogs will be cleared by sep 30, hope you get your LC before that and you can apply for 140 & 485 concurrent. I know it is unfair, we can't help but act smart.
Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.
We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.
Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.
People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.
Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.
Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.
Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.
We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.
Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.
People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.
Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.
Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.
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amitjoey
09-29 05:25 PM
You made very good points. May I suggest we ask members to call on the phone too if they're busy? This actually worked in delaying the first Bailout in 2009, when they received numerous calls.
Customer service reps do this for hours everyday in some places.
We have had phone and email campaigns in the past. Phone campaigns work the best when a specific bill is being debated and there is the target 2-3 days campaign. The rest of the time, person-to person presentation is the best.
Customer service reps do this for hours everyday in some places.
We have had phone and email campaigns in the past. Phone campaigns work the best when a specific bill is being debated and there is the target 2-3 days campaign. The rest of the time, person-to person presentation is the best.
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ganguteli
03-21 11:59 PM
WOW!!.. Very quick response.. good. You are trying to do a good job.
You missed two points:
Can you please update your profile.
And you said "As some of you know...." . Were you trying in these lines before too. Can you direct me to any one of your forums more than 2 months old where we can see what you did before.
Trust me, in the past we knew of some guys who tried to distract the forum attention with proposals of doing somethings in the lines as you have said. Their goal is to distract and divert attention.
Not that we do not trust you, but we expect you have atleast your profile updated.
What do you do, when you come across someone who says I can get you a big job done for you, as I have contacts.. Not blindly trust, right.. We also check he his credentials. I am to some extent doing that, to be frank, not that everyone has profiles here with real information.
I told about you to my friends, and they asked me "Why do we trust him, dont you think he may be a Canadian who is trying to distract these innocent Indians and hence make sure they remain in backlogs"....
You and your fake friends.
I remember your posts where you claimed that your friends are ready to contribute huge amounts of money to IV.
Where have they gone now when a funding drive was started?
You cannot even contribute a mere $25 and talk about contributing thousands?
Please avoid trying to make tall claims and promises you cannot keep. It makes a man lose his credibility. A man is known and is respected by the word he keeps.
This Totoro guy is at least doing something and going to meet a lawmaker office? Have you ever had the courage to visit a lawmaker. I only saw posts where you were asking people to send spam emails annonymously to lawmaker offices.
If you are asking him to enterreal profile information, May I ask you if your profile is real? Does it have your real name, phone address, main email, employer name etc in it? Moderators can verfy it? If not then you are also are like most other annonymous users on the internet.
Let us get real and recognize those who are trying to do something genguine. This guy has already emailed IV about himself so why are you trying to distract people.
You missed two points:
Can you please update your profile.
And you said "As some of you know...." . Were you trying in these lines before too. Can you direct me to any one of your forums more than 2 months old where we can see what you did before.
Trust me, in the past we knew of some guys who tried to distract the forum attention with proposals of doing somethings in the lines as you have said. Their goal is to distract and divert attention.
Not that we do not trust you, but we expect you have atleast your profile updated.
What do you do, when you come across someone who says I can get you a big job done for you, as I have contacts.. Not blindly trust, right.. We also check he his credentials. I am to some extent doing that, to be frank, not that everyone has profiles here with real information.
I told about you to my friends, and they asked me "Why do we trust him, dont you think he may be a Canadian who is trying to distract these innocent Indians and hence make sure they remain in backlogs"....
You and your fake friends.
I remember your posts where you claimed that your friends are ready to contribute huge amounts of money to IV.
Where have they gone now when a funding drive was started?
You cannot even contribute a mere $25 and talk about contributing thousands?
Please avoid trying to make tall claims and promises you cannot keep. It makes a man lose his credibility. A man is known and is respected by the word he keeps.
This Totoro guy is at least doing something and going to meet a lawmaker office? Have you ever had the courage to visit a lawmaker. I only saw posts where you were asking people to send spam emails annonymously to lawmaker offices.
If you are asking him to enterreal profile information, May I ask you if your profile is real? Does it have your real name, phone address, main email, employer name etc in it? Moderators can verfy it? If not then you are also are like most other annonymous users on the internet.
Let us get real and recognize those who are trying to do something genguine. This guy has already emailed IV about himself so why are you trying to distract people.
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01-26 01:07 PM
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I was tired of moving from apartment to apartment , nodding to apartment rules, parking problems, twice brake-in's , small kitchens /bedrooms . Crowded common amenities etc.
Buying house has sure maintenance pain, but few pains give fun.
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I was tired of moving from apartment to apartment , nodding to apartment rules, parking problems, twice brake-in's , small kitchens /bedrooms . Crowded common amenities etc.
Buying house has sure maintenance pain, but few pains give fun.
I donot have to worry about rising apartment rents vs steady mortgage payments ( According to my calculation ,owning is cheaper ,lot cheaper in long run )
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04-10 09:26 PM
You are right. But many people came here at the middle of their carrier and they are struck here with their children education etc., They are bound to be here and there is no way. Further, in my country, there are still reservation policies in everything, which may prevent the kids in going in for the education line they like. I donot want to explain this more as I may be degrading my own mother country. In a nutshell, everyone who wish to be a citizen of this country will have lot of valid reasons for getting a citizenship in this country.
isn't the effect of reservation the same as the effect of affirmative action?
If your kid gets high scores in SAT but does not get into an ivy league college because your ethnicity is over-represented - but some other kid with much lower scores gets in (and its not a hypothetical scenario - happens every admission season and i sincerely hope does not happen to your loved ones).....where does that leave your logic??
i see your point that people do have their own reasons for desiring US citizenships - but sometimes its also important to take a step back and see what one is giving up!
isn't the effect of reservation the same as the effect of affirmative action?
If your kid gets high scores in SAT but does not get into an ivy league college because your ethnicity is over-represented - but some other kid with much lower scores gets in (and its not a hypothetical scenario - happens every admission season and i sincerely hope does not happen to your loved ones).....where does that leave your logic??
i see your point that people do have their own reasons for desiring US citizenships - but sometimes its also important to take a step back and see what one is giving up!
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The7zen
07-14 03:42 PM
I agree totally!! I understand the need for IV not to lobby for just one community EB2 or
EB3...but the fact is that all we see is movement in EB2 and no to very little movement in EB3....the most retrogessed and most in need community is EB3...
For new people like us, how do we get motivated for donation and all these things when we see rest of the people who are doign this still waiting for months to see some light at the end of the tunnel??
I think what would help is an action plan by IV stating what they would be doing in weeks or months to come....
may be do a campaign like a flower campaign or something to really get the attention if not this beginning of next year, when we think that CIR may be moving....
I think we are lacking an action plan here....and may be thats what we need for new people to get motivated towards....
Mr. Pagal,
Its very unfortunate, that most of us are very active only when a Visa Bulletin is released, bickering about EB1, EB3, EB1 etc. Then the topic dies until the next visa bulletin is released.
There are plenty of action items to do, have you checked those, I recommend you do that ASAP. Mind that the IV core also has a professional and personal life, no one pays them to do what they do at IV. Simply pointing fingers at others will not help with our cause. Contributing some $$ is also an action Item, I suggest you start with that.
Have a good one!!
7z
EB3...but the fact is that all we see is movement in EB2 and no to very little movement in EB3....the most retrogessed and most in need community is EB3...
For new people like us, how do we get motivated for donation and all these things when we see rest of the people who are doign this still waiting for months to see some light at the end of the tunnel??
I think what would help is an action plan by IV stating what they would be doing in weeks or months to come....
may be do a campaign like a flower campaign or something to really get the attention if not this beginning of next year, when we think that CIR may be moving....
I think we are lacking an action plan here....and may be thats what we need for new people to get motivated towards....
Mr. Pagal,
Its very unfortunate, that most of us are very active only when a Visa Bulletin is released, bickering about EB1, EB3, EB1 etc. Then the topic dies until the next visa bulletin is released.
There are plenty of action items to do, have you checked those, I recommend you do that ASAP. Mind that the IV core also has a professional and personal life, no one pays them to do what they do at IV. Simply pointing fingers at others will not help with our cause. Contributing some $$ is also an action Item, I suggest you start with that.
Have a good one!!
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07-31 11:53 AM
Sorry.. i mean "earliest".
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05-09 10:17 PM
@snathan: Have you checked with your lawyer if he sent an email to DOL. You may have been audited.
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07-11 07:37 PM
Do they have untill the 16th to respond to this?
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hpandey
08-05 09:12 AM
Just checked the online status. Approvals both for my wife and me.
PD : Feb 2006 / TSC, EB2
Recently got the old priority date changed to Nov 2005.
Can you please fill up your details in your profile which will automatically add it to the IV tracker. It will help if as many people as possible would update their profile in the IV tracker.
Thanks
PD : Feb 2006 / TSC, EB2
Recently got the old priority date changed to Nov 2005.
Can you please fill up your details in your profile which will automatically add it to the IV tracker. It will help if as many people as possible would update their profile in the IV tracker.
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snathan
05-09 08:21 PM
It sounds like a pre-written text that goes to every inquiry they get.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I dont buy into their FIFO process. May be its applicable in the Non-Audit cases but cases that get audited are just being piled up at someone's desk and that person is most likely dead (does not exist) :mad:
Even in non-aduiting cases there are no FIFO. My case is pending for more than 95 days and people are getting approval in 9 days. Where is FIFO. They must be kidding or does not know the meaning of FIFO.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I dont buy into their FIFO process. May be its applicable in the Non-Audit cases but cases that get audited are just being piled up at someone's desk and that person is most likely dead (does not exist) :mad:
Even in non-aduiting cases there are no FIFO. My case is pending for more than 95 days and people are getting approval in 9 days. Where is FIFO. They must be kidding or does not know the meaning of FIFO.
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singhsa3
04-30 09:10 PM
Don't get disheartened my freind. I did not intend to come out like that.
But seriously, you do need form a group to handle this issue. IV can at most provide an umbrella , under which like minded people like yourself can organize. We have similar such groups for IV physicians, lawmaker liasion et.
In case you did not notice I asked for a suggestion, not action. And please think a little broad and beyond technical terms, I don't mean Senior in forum (100+ post), I meant someone who has experience to provide suggestions that may have worked previously.
thanks for your "help" with the IV formula
:mad:
If you dont have anything positive to contribute please do not just post comment (to become senior) as it could hurt others morale.
But seriously, you do need form a group to handle this issue. IV can at most provide an umbrella , under which like minded people like yourself can organize. We have similar such groups for IV physicians, lawmaker liasion et.
In case you did not notice I asked for a suggestion, not action. And please think a little broad and beyond technical terms, I don't mean Senior in forum (100+ post), I meant someone who has experience to provide suggestions that may have worked previously.
thanks for your "help" with the IV formula
:mad:
If you dont have anything positive to contribute please do not just post comment (to become senior) as it could hurt others morale.
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sbabunle
06-12 12:21 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen
With all respects, ,may I request to keep this thread only
for CIR updates?
Like many of you, I'm also affected by this. My wait is almost
8 years now. I dont blame any body because I'm from a country
where beaurocracy and corruption is more than this country. I dont
blame anyone because it was my choice to come here and it was
my choice to apply for a GC. Nobody forced me. I've always a chance
to leave at my will. My strength is the belief that my gods will never
let me down.
Now I respectfully request everybody to update just the CIR updates
on this thread.
thanks for your
understanding.
With all respects, ,may I request to keep this thread only
for CIR updates?
Like many of you, I'm also affected by this. My wait is almost
8 years now. I dont blame any body because I'm from a country
where beaurocracy and corruption is more than this country. I dont
blame anyone because it was my choice to come here and it was
my choice to apply for a GC. Nobody forced me. I've always a chance
to leave at my will. My strength is the belief that my gods will never
let me down.
Now I respectfully request everybody to update just the CIR updates
on this thread.
thanks for your
understanding.
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Hassan11
08-24 10:24 AM
Please help
Hi
I have a question regarding an appeal I did a year ago for a rejected LC.
I have an approved LC and I-140 on an entry level position (EB3) with my company. after I got a promotion to a senior position that requires a masters degree but with a smilar job description but more senior and supervisory responsabilities with the same company. after promotion, I filed for a new LC (EB2) but it got rejected because DOL thinks it is the same position as the already approved LC. my company and I wrote a letter as an appeal on Sep 2006 within 30 days from rejection of LC to BALCA explaining that new position requires a masters degree and it is a senior position with more supervisory duties. as of today, almost a year later, we haven't heard anything regarding DOL (BALCA) decision on my appeal. is anybody in the same situation?? what should I do next?? also I read somewhere that DOl might revoke the already approved LC EB3 after I filed a second LC for EB2 with the same employer. can DOL revoke the first LC EB3 after I have an approved I-140?? please help. Thanks
Hi
I have a question regarding an appeal I did a year ago for a rejected LC.
I have an approved LC and I-140 on an entry level position (EB3) with my company. after I got a promotion to a senior position that requires a masters degree but with a smilar job description but more senior and supervisory responsabilities with the same company. after promotion, I filed for a new LC (EB2) but it got rejected because DOL thinks it is the same position as the already approved LC. my company and I wrote a letter as an appeal on Sep 2006 within 30 days from rejection of LC to BALCA explaining that new position requires a masters degree and it is a senior position with more supervisory duties. as of today, almost a year later, we haven't heard anything regarding DOL (BALCA) decision on my appeal. is anybody in the same situation?? what should I do next?? also I read somewhere that DOl might revoke the already approved LC EB3 after I filed a second LC for EB2 with the same employer. can DOL revoke the first LC EB3 after I have an approved I-140?? please help. Thanks
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05-01 01:40 PM
PERM Filed: 06/15/2007
Audit date: 10/22/2007
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05-23 03:49 PM
Yes, its a good idea to call again and follow up saying that you are very keen on knowing whether the Congressman made any decision yet. We have our hopes pinned up on this one!
Hi all of the people who did not call!!! Just look at the response we got we already have 2 of the caucus members as co sponsors of the bill If every member of IV called I have no doubt that most of them will become co sponsors but also that the bill will pass. It is our time. We need this to happen.....
Please call, BTW what do you people think about calling again? I think it will count as more support?? Let me know what you guys think and may be all the people who are active can call again....
Hi all of the people who did not call!!! Just look at the response we got we already have 2 of the caucus members as co sponsors of the bill If every member of IV called I have no doubt that most of them will become co sponsors but also that the bill will pass. It is our time. We need this to happen.....
Please call, BTW what do you people think about calling again? I think it will count as more support?? Let me know what you guys think and may be all the people who are active can call again....
illusions
04-07 12:22 PM
This is a wonderful idea. Having waited for 10 years for green card, if one has to wait for 5 more years for naturalization (that allows one to vote in the elections), then it is indeed an utter discomfort. We need something like IV but with a different name: NaturalizationVoice (it would be envy -NV- of all in IV ;-)) to campaign for immediate ready-to-serve naturalization of highly skilled (like Saralayar, of course) permanent residents.. NV should also campaign for an amendment that would allow highly skilled immigrant turned naturalized citizens (eg. Saralayar) to contest as presidential candidates. If any such person wins, he or she could either ban immigration (at least for other high skilled people) or abolish waiting period for greencard.
Makes sense, like the idea of abolishing the waiting period for GC.... but with all due respect i belive that will never happen esp in a post 911 era where there is a lot of checks. I belive if they put the name check process in a fast track it would be benificial. Suks that we have to wait another 5 years after getting GC to get Citizenship, if anything i would think counting 5 years after 485 is logical.
Makes sense, like the idea of abolishing the waiting period for GC.... but with all due respect i belive that will never happen esp in a post 911 era where there is a lot of checks. I belive if they put the name check process in a fast track it would be benificial. Suks that we have to wait another 5 years after getting GC to get Citizenship, if anything i would think counting 5 years after 485 is logical.
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02-02 01:32 PM
I guess it is time to pack and go back, after seeing all these developments
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