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04-09 06:39 PM
Well it's obvious that it all boils down to what you bring to the table.
But that is with any company, it you're not providing revenue to the company you will get fired.
But at least IBM is not hiring H1B's without having a project in which to put people. I doubt IBM makes people like on their resume, I mean not minor lies, blantant lies like making a Fresh grad show 5 years of experience.
Several Indian consulting firms offered me this.
Did you ever hear name called Enron , Anderson consulting and Computer Associates ? Try to do a google search on Enron and Anderson consulting :D
But that is with any company, it you're not providing revenue to the company you will get fired.
But at least IBM is not hiring H1B's without having a project in which to put people. I doubt IBM makes people like on their resume, I mean not minor lies, blantant lies like making a Fresh grad show 5 years of experience.
Several Indian consulting firms offered me this.
Did you ever hear name called Enron , Anderson consulting and Computer Associates ? Try to do a google search on Enron and Anderson consulting :D
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10-21 09:04 PM
I wanted to renew my passport and i went in person to CGI Houston office . CGI Houston will re-issue passport the same day afternoon for additional $150 ( on top of $40 for processing fee ) . I was informed that i can pickup my new passport the next week if i opt for normal processing but I just asked them to mail my passport instead and i received it within 10 days .
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vrbest
03-11 09:12 AM
Since you dont have visa stamped on passport, H1B approval copy notarized would help. You should be fine entering both addresses and I have seen both addresses on my Passport on renewal.
vrbest and Saro,
Thanks for the information. In online application, there is a column for address to be printed in passport. There is a column for other address. I am planning to give India permanent address in the first column. Hopefully they will put that into the passport. Passport is the only address proof for me in India.
My L1 visa is expired on October, 2008. My company moved me to H1 and i am yet to go for stamping on H1.
vrbest and Saro,
Thanks for the information. In online application, there is a column for address to be printed in passport. There is a column for other address. I am planning to give India permanent address in the first column. Hopefully they will put that into the passport. Passport is the only address proof for me in India.
My L1 visa is expired on October, 2008. My company moved me to H1 and i am yet to go for stamping on H1.
pappu
04-08 08:08 PM
Guys, here the form to file a complaint on L1A - EB1 misuse by indian IT companies
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/wh-4.pdf
Here's the process..http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm
If you have a genuine case and know the company name who resort to these shady practices, Please fill this form and send it across to DOL. You do not need to provide your personal information if you are not willing to.
Rest, they will investigate and take care..
I am one of those who couldn't file in EB1 but that is past and long gone for me.
You need to write to USCIS and Ombudsman. Labor department does not approve such petitions.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/wh-4.pdf
Here's the process..http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm
If you have a genuine case and know the company name who resort to these shady practices, Please fill this form and send it across to DOL. You do not need to provide your personal information if you are not willing to.
Rest, they will investigate and take care..
I am one of those who couldn't file in EB1 but that is past and long gone for me.
You need to write to USCIS and Ombudsman. Labor department does not approve such petitions.
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gk_2000
05-04 01:30 PM
My Friend, I dont understand why you gave me this big reading class and what you do you want to say.
get some rest buddy.
MC
I gave it to you because you deserve it. Hope you dont prove me wrong!
Anyway, you will understand my words some day. I don't expect that day to be today
get some rest buddy.
MC
I gave it to you because you deserve it. Hope you dont prove me wrong!
Anyway, you will understand my words some day. I don't expect that day to be today
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01-03 06:42 PM
Need 14 more members to be 8000.
Can we do it before tommorrow?
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looivy
09-25 02:59 AM
It is the fourth option.
- EB3I just bury their heads in sand looking for a miracle and they have lost hope.
Also, no clear directionality from leadership.
Hi Raju,
You hit the nail on its head. The Eb3I participation is very very less. Look at EB2 specific threads. There are 25000 views. EB3I specific threads is a mere 2000. In fact EB3I is supposed to be a biggger group.
Here are my theories:
- EB3I guys lost hope in IV and stopped visiting IV
- EB3I guys work in low level jobs without access to Internet even in office or home (certainly cannot be the case)
- EB3I does not know about IV at all for the past 4 years (hmmm...)
- EB3I just bury their heads in sand looking for a miracle
This is a bigger problem than the EB3I backlog problem.
I know many guys in this forum who are regular contributers are missing here. What really is going on?
- EB3I just bury their heads in sand looking for a miracle and they have lost hope.
Also, no clear directionality from leadership.
Hi Raju,
You hit the nail on its head. The Eb3I participation is very very less. Look at EB2 specific threads. There are 25000 views. EB3I specific threads is a mere 2000. In fact EB3I is supposed to be a biggger group.
Here are my theories:
- EB3I guys lost hope in IV and stopped visiting IV
- EB3I guys work in low level jobs without access to Internet even in office or home (certainly cannot be the case)
- EB3I does not know about IV at all for the past 4 years (hmmm...)
- EB3I just bury their heads in sand looking for a miracle
This is a bigger problem than the EB3I backlog problem.
I know many guys in this forum who are regular contributers are missing here. What really is going on?
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09-28 09:15 AM
agree..unused Visa # capture.. is the only way...
Who will help us? How to proceed? When to Start?
No answers.
No one will help EB3.
God only will help.
Who will help us? How to proceed? When to Start?
No answers.
No one will help EB3.
God only will help.
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eb3retro
07-13 04:39 PM
eb3-row is staggering at june 2004. It will be a long time before we can see any spillovers from that to eb3-I..and this is not the case in EB2-ROW. Its current as of today.
Dont you want to include the EB3 unused visa from worldwide? just the way EB2 got this time!
This is highlited in Aug VB thread too
following is pasted from VB link (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5092.html)
Dont you want to include the EB3 unused visa from worldwide? just the way EB2 got this time!
This is highlited in Aug VB thread too
following is pasted from VB link (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5092.html)
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abhijitp
07-11 07:38 PM
I talked to a staff member at senator Barbara's office, and the staff member said, Faxes and emails are responded and replied by staff reps. Only written (typed) letters go to Senator's attention. She also advised me that if this is something you need the senators attention on, do not send fax or email, send a letter with postage paid.
I explained to her the visa -flip flop, and she said most likely the senator will read and send an inquiry, The senator is very good at responding to letters from constituents.
That is exactly why we need to send them letters, please look at the format and add some personal details, gives it a little personal touch.
I agree. My experience thus far: I emailed 200 reporters and received no response. I am going to try the letters idea, because I too think what Amitjoey says is right-- letters make an impact.
Write a letter, run a grammar/spell check, then print, SIGN, and send it to senators who support us. I wrote the following. But please personalize, because that would send the message that this is an issue of importance to you-- the writer.
________________
Name
Address
Senator Name, Address
Date:
Subject: Thousands of properly filed EB Green Card applications likely to be rejected/ returned
References/ Enclosures:
� Interim Visa Bulletin by U S Department of State
� USCIS announcement to stop accepting Adjustment Of Status applications
Dear ____:
I have been living in ___, USA for the last ___ months/ years. By profession, I am a ____, and I work for ___, a company based in ___.
I am writing to bring to your attention the unprecedented decision made by US Department of State (DOS) on July 2, 2007 with its interim �visa bulletin�. With this bulletin, DOS determined that all the immigrant visa numbers allocated for the current financial year had been expended, and thus there would be no further authorizations of new Green Cards this year. In response, USCIS announced that it would return all Adjustment of Status applications it received, beginning July 2, 2007. Please note that the USCIS had already RECEIVED applications on the morning of July 2, 2007, even before DOS published this interim visa bulletin.
In my opinion it is an unfortunate decision in that it virtually renders null and void, thousands of properly filed Employment Based Green Card- Adjustment of Status applications.
An important thing to note here, is that in the Visa Bulletin published by DOS only 18 days ago (June 13, 2007) all Employment Based categories had been made �current� since almost 60000 immigrant visa numbers had been unused till that time.
This begs the question: how did USCIS manage to approve about 60000 green cards in less than 3 weeks, when it took the previous 8 months to approve the same number of green cards?
The Visa Bulletin published by DOS in June 2007, had brought good news to thousands of high-skilled temporary workers (doctors, engineers, IT professionals) in the USA, because the floodgates that had been closed for over 2 years had been re-opened.
This bulletin had implied that we could finally apply for "Adjustment of Status"- the final stage of the 3 step Employment based Green card process. This would solve a number of quality of life issues for people like me, as they would allow our spouses to take up part or full time jobs, they would bring in an element of stability allowing me to plan the purchase of a new home, and it would give me the freedom of relocating to another part of the USA for any unforeseen reason, without worrying about the portability of my existing job.
Therefore, my family and I worked really hard, and tried to religiously comply with all procedures laid out and submitted our application to reach the USCIS on the morning of July 2, 2007.
Besides running around to gather the paperwork to help file in time, I had to spend a significant amount of money on:
1) Urgent medical examinations and vaccinations by USCIS approved surgeon: $700. (Note: These were not covered by my medical insurance.)
2) New passport photographs; these needed to be less than a month old... so these had to be newly taken photographs
3) Notarization/ Courier charges: Approximately $100 (Some amount expended in foreign currency)
All of the money spent, as well as the time and efforts were rendered useless by the new bulletin on July 2, 2007, which I repeat, was published AFTER the window opened for new applications on the morning of July 2, 2007.
My point is, and I believe anyone with common sense would agree, it is only fair to expect a notice period before a reversal such as this one. Preferably... weeks of notice if not days! I am sure no US Citizen would accept anything less for a notice in such an important matter!
I would implore you to look into this matter as soon as you can, and request the USCIS to accept Adjustment of Status applications filed through July 2007.
Thank you.
Truly,
Name
I explained to her the visa -flip flop, and she said most likely the senator will read and send an inquiry, The senator is very good at responding to letters from constituents.
That is exactly why we need to send them letters, please look at the format and add some personal details, gives it a little personal touch.
I agree. My experience thus far: I emailed 200 reporters and received no response. I am going to try the letters idea, because I too think what Amitjoey says is right-- letters make an impact.
Write a letter, run a grammar/spell check, then print, SIGN, and send it to senators who support us. I wrote the following. But please personalize, because that would send the message that this is an issue of importance to you-- the writer.
________________
Name
Address
Senator Name, Address
Date:
Subject: Thousands of properly filed EB Green Card applications likely to be rejected/ returned
References/ Enclosures:
� Interim Visa Bulletin by U S Department of State
� USCIS announcement to stop accepting Adjustment Of Status applications
Dear ____:
I have been living in ___, USA for the last ___ months/ years. By profession, I am a ____, and I work for ___, a company based in ___.
I am writing to bring to your attention the unprecedented decision made by US Department of State (DOS) on July 2, 2007 with its interim �visa bulletin�. With this bulletin, DOS determined that all the immigrant visa numbers allocated for the current financial year had been expended, and thus there would be no further authorizations of new Green Cards this year. In response, USCIS announced that it would return all Adjustment of Status applications it received, beginning July 2, 2007. Please note that the USCIS had already RECEIVED applications on the morning of July 2, 2007, even before DOS published this interim visa bulletin.
In my opinion it is an unfortunate decision in that it virtually renders null and void, thousands of properly filed Employment Based Green Card- Adjustment of Status applications.
An important thing to note here, is that in the Visa Bulletin published by DOS only 18 days ago (June 13, 2007) all Employment Based categories had been made �current� since almost 60000 immigrant visa numbers had been unused till that time.
This begs the question: how did USCIS manage to approve about 60000 green cards in less than 3 weeks, when it took the previous 8 months to approve the same number of green cards?
The Visa Bulletin published by DOS in June 2007, had brought good news to thousands of high-skilled temporary workers (doctors, engineers, IT professionals) in the USA, because the floodgates that had been closed for over 2 years had been re-opened.
This bulletin had implied that we could finally apply for "Adjustment of Status"- the final stage of the 3 step Employment based Green card process. This would solve a number of quality of life issues for people like me, as they would allow our spouses to take up part or full time jobs, they would bring in an element of stability allowing me to plan the purchase of a new home, and it would give me the freedom of relocating to another part of the USA for any unforeseen reason, without worrying about the portability of my existing job.
Therefore, my family and I worked really hard, and tried to religiously comply with all procedures laid out and submitted our application to reach the USCIS on the morning of July 2, 2007.
Besides running around to gather the paperwork to help file in time, I had to spend a significant amount of money on:
1) Urgent medical examinations and vaccinations by USCIS approved surgeon: $700. (Note: These were not covered by my medical insurance.)
2) New passport photographs; these needed to be less than a month old... so these had to be newly taken photographs
3) Notarization/ Courier charges: Approximately $100 (Some amount expended in foreign currency)
All of the money spent, as well as the time and efforts were rendered useless by the new bulletin on July 2, 2007, which I repeat, was published AFTER the window opened for new applications on the morning of July 2, 2007.
My point is, and I believe anyone with common sense would agree, it is only fair to expect a notice period before a reversal such as this one. Preferably... weeks of notice if not days! I am sure no US Citizen would accept anything less for a notice in such an important matter!
I would implore you to look into this matter as soon as you can, and request the USCIS to accept Adjustment of Status applications filed through July 2007.
Thank you.
Truly,
Name
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atlfp
06-08 10:31 AM
The very very first, if not only reason for both party to work on this issue is to gain their vote. What do you gain by giving them goodies but does not offer them a chance to appreciate you back (vote)?
I don�t know what is so hard about this deadlock. Don�t they know that if:
1. Illegals are given temporary visas for them to return after a number of years, no-body would come forward. The illegals would see this as shooting themselves in the foot. They would prefer to remain in the dark and live here permanently. Purpose defeated.
2. A tough enforcement only bill is passed, with the hope that there would be attrition after a while: How long would it take for all 12 million illegals to finally leave? 1 million per year? 500K per year? 24 years? Yeah right! Ok assuming they leave at a rate of 500K per year (which I know wouldn�t happen) what would be the rate of inflow of more illegals?? What would be the balance of illegals after say 10 years? Think about it.
3. Give them a path to citizenship. Well they are here anyways but this idea might jeopardize the bill.
So my proposal is: Since �a path to citizenship� is the major road block to this bill, make a law that gives the Illegals an opportunity for GC but include in the law that �Anybody that ever comes into the country illegally CAN NOT become a citizen�. i.e they can get a green card but they can never be eligible for citizenship. I am sure this is a reasonable middle ground�. a path to PR but not citizenship. I am sure those illegals don�t care about citizenship anyways. They just want to be free and be mobile.
Just my thots.
I don�t know what is so hard about this deadlock. Don�t they know that if:
1. Illegals are given temporary visas for them to return after a number of years, no-body would come forward. The illegals would see this as shooting themselves in the foot. They would prefer to remain in the dark and live here permanently. Purpose defeated.
2. A tough enforcement only bill is passed, with the hope that there would be attrition after a while: How long would it take for all 12 million illegals to finally leave? 1 million per year? 500K per year? 24 years? Yeah right! Ok assuming they leave at a rate of 500K per year (which I know wouldn�t happen) what would be the rate of inflow of more illegals?? What would be the balance of illegals after say 10 years? Think about it.
3. Give them a path to citizenship. Well they are here anyways but this idea might jeopardize the bill.
So my proposal is: Since �a path to citizenship� is the major road block to this bill, make a law that gives the Illegals an opportunity for GC but include in the law that �Anybody that ever comes into the country illegally CAN NOT become a citizen�. i.e they can get a green card but they can never be eligible for citizenship. I am sure this is a reasonable middle ground�. a path to PR but not citizenship. I am sure those illegals don�t care about citizenship anyways. They just want to be free and be mobile.
Just my thots.
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Sachin_Stock
07-14 03:16 PM
I have failed to see where IV has been showing discrimination or bias towards Eb2 versus Eb3?
Not taking up a specific Eb-3 cause does not tantamount of neglecting Eb-3. Has IV done something in past 'proactively' for only a certain category of Eb? If not, then how can we accuse IV of ditching Eb3, at the same time?
Not taking up a specific Eb-3 cause does not tantamount of neglecting Eb-3. Has IV done something in past 'proactively' for only a certain category of Eb? If not, then how can we accuse IV of ditching Eb3, at the same time?
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Winner
04-08 03:26 PM
See you guys in October!
Yup, let's leave it to a few committed members and a few who already got their GC's but trying to help others to fight for us....and let's comeback and do all predicting BS and hope we someone else will solve our problems. Good Luck!
Yup, let's leave it to a few committed members and a few who already got their GC's but trying to help others to fight for us....and let's comeback and do all predicting BS and hope we someone else will solve our problems. Good Luck!
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AllVNeedGcPc
09-24 05:41 PM
Few years back, someone at USCIS, changed the good old horizontal spillover to new vertical spillover just like that (probably on some new-bee intern's suggestion). Without any legislation change, or CIR, or admin fix...
Same way, USCIS can change it back to old horizontal spillover, and EB3-I will start seeing ~15K-~20K again every year.
We should try to re-introduce this concept of horizontal spillover back in USCIS's mind.
Ok. We all agree that EB3 India is in bad shape and needs help.
Some of us are managers/team leaders. Others have leadership skills and want to be managers in the near future.
If you are a CEO what would you do to solve the EB3 India issue.
Please present your ideas here. Just the ideas.
Dont shoot down others ideas.
Remember you ideas should be similar to a CEO.
Show your leadership skills.
Same way, USCIS can change it back to old horizontal spillover, and EB3-I will start seeing ~15K-~20K again every year.
We should try to re-introduce this concept of horizontal spillover back in USCIS's mind.
Ok. We all agree that EB3 India is in bad shape and needs help.
Some of us are managers/team leaders. Others have leadership skills and want to be managers in the near future.
If you are a CEO what would you do to solve the EB3 India issue.
Please present your ideas here. Just the ideas.
Dont shoot down others ideas.
Remember you ideas should be similar to a CEO.
Show your leadership skills.
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pappu
05-17 11:21 PM
Nice one!
Hi folks, just as predicted, my email thread to select contacts resulted in one outright racist response. i dont want this group to get distracted or distressed if you too get such responses. take a look at the original note below and my response. remain brave. remain strong. this is a LEGAL immigration process in the US economic interest too.
hopefully people will begin to realize that anti-legal-immigration is just a facade for deep rooted racism.
Best.
A SELF AVOWED RACIST RESPONSE from A PERSONAL CONTACT
I have to let you know that not only will I not support this bill, but I am vehemently against the legal immigration of workers that are originally brought here to usurp positions that would have otherwise been held by skilled Americans. I agree that this is a racist and exclusionary position, but I also know many people who can no longer get work at the level they deserve due to the displacement they have experienced as a result of this foreign worker influx.
Please remove me from any future posts regarding this or related issues.
MY RESPONSE
i know how the native americans must have felt when the pilgrims landed... oh that darned foreign influx.
i will not dignify your self avowed racism with the erudition of economics, capitalism, innovation, globalization, human rights or the rich history of the united states as a melting pot of cultures ... all of which are underpinning factors that are in the long term US economic interests in high skilled LEGAL immigration. of course, these tend to be conveniently ignored on the altar of superficial sentiment, myopic protectionism and deep-rooted xenophobia.
it would be best that we not be on each others' personal contacts or have any future interaction at all.
Hi folks, just as predicted, my email thread to select contacts resulted in one outright racist response. i dont want this group to get distracted or distressed if you too get such responses. take a look at the original note below and my response. remain brave. remain strong. this is a LEGAL immigration process in the US economic interest too.
hopefully people will begin to realize that anti-legal-immigration is just a facade for deep rooted racism.
Best.
A SELF AVOWED RACIST RESPONSE from A PERSONAL CONTACT
I have to let you know that not only will I not support this bill, but I am vehemently against the legal immigration of workers that are originally brought here to usurp positions that would have otherwise been held by skilled Americans. I agree that this is a racist and exclusionary position, but I also know many people who can no longer get work at the level they deserve due to the displacement they have experienced as a result of this foreign worker influx.
Please remove me from any future posts regarding this or related issues.
MY RESPONSE
i know how the native americans must have felt when the pilgrims landed... oh that darned foreign influx.
i will not dignify your self avowed racism with the erudition of economics, capitalism, innovation, globalization, human rights or the rich history of the united states as a melting pot of cultures ... all of which are underpinning factors that are in the long term US economic interests in high skilled LEGAL immigration. of course, these tend to be conveniently ignored on the altar of superficial sentiment, myopic protectionism and deep-rooted xenophobia.
it would be best that we not be on each others' personal contacts or have any future interaction at all.
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akred
06-14 10:34 AM
Dear friend akred,
One question for you my friend, ask your consience.
your advice to BEG, Borrow, STEAL or KILL, is this how we should conduct ourself in the society. Do you want such kind of society. Is it good to profess anger, decit and violence in society. (think what our kids will face when they grow up.) ?
As a devote Hindu, I live by Hindu way of life, and I Hope you do too, I PRAY to you, can you PLEASE implement this way of life in your normal daily life, you will see the difference yourself.
Not meaning to anger you, Sorry in advance if I have hurt you. I pray you will change.
OM !!!!;)
On a philosophical note, you have to do what you must. Everything has its time and place - anger and violence are valuable tools and sometimes violence is noble when you are confronted by evil - perhaps the only thing out of place is "steal".
Anyway, companies have pre-approved labors that are expiring in a month. The dramatic language was to convey the message that this is the time for action.
One question for you my friend, ask your consience.
your advice to BEG, Borrow, STEAL or KILL, is this how we should conduct ourself in the society. Do you want such kind of society. Is it good to profess anger, decit and violence in society. (think what our kids will face when they grow up.) ?
As a devote Hindu, I live by Hindu way of life, and I Hope you do too, I PRAY to you, can you PLEASE implement this way of life in your normal daily life, you will see the difference yourself.
Not meaning to anger you, Sorry in advance if I have hurt you. I pray you will change.
OM !!!!;)
On a philosophical note, you have to do what you must. Everything has its time and place - anger and violence are valuable tools and sometimes violence is noble when you are confronted by evil - perhaps the only thing out of place is "steal".
Anyway, companies have pre-approved labors that are expiring in a month. The dramatic language was to convey the message that this is the time for action.
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grimus
07-11 07:13 PM
We can look at overtime work done by uscis and draw an estimate what it take for them for processing our 485 this october. Then we could send Pizza for overtime workers.
This is a nice one!! :D :D :D
This is a nice one!! :D :D :D
PlainSpeak
01-12 01:55 PM
Most of us are missing the point here. The bill is aimed at those immigrants who have obtained advanced degrees in the US. And believe me, there are lot of aspiring immigrants who have been waiting since 2002-2003 who also happen to have American degrees, most of them stuck with EB3. Priority Dates will still be in play. Most probably, there will be a new category. These additional visas will help clear up backlogs irrespective of your current visa category. If you have a US degree and your PD is current, you will be eligible. Not sure what the confusion is about :)
What you say is true but can you please let me know what you think might be the reasoning of the introducer of the bill.
1. Get rid of DV because they add no value to economy - That i can understand
2. Give the saved 55 k visa to US educated GC applicants. That i CANNOT understand
WHY ?? Don't GC applicants who work but are not educated here contribute to the economy also
Instead of focussing the energy of an organiazation towards unrealistic targets such as removal of country quota and recapture of unused visa it would be better to channel all efforts to get the 55K visas given to people with older priority date, and if it makes EB2 guys panicky ask for a rule to keep the date difference between EB2 and EB3 by 3 years (an arbitary number) . That will keep EB2 and EB3 happy instead of the bill in teh current form
What you say is true but can you please let me know what you think might be the reasoning of the introducer of the bill.
1. Get rid of DV because they add no value to economy - That i can understand
2. Give the saved 55 k visa to US educated GC applicants. That i CANNOT understand
WHY ?? Don't GC applicants who work but are not educated here contribute to the economy also
Instead of focussing the energy of an organiazation towards unrealistic targets such as removal of country quota and recapture of unused visa it would be better to channel all efforts to get the 55K visas given to people with older priority date, and if it makes EB2 guys panicky ask for a rule to keep the date difference between EB2 and EB3 by 3 years (an arbitary number) . That will keep EB2 and EB3 happy instead of the bill in teh current form
RandyK
10-08 01:09 PM
I will appreciate your comments
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